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sabrina 1

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185. Ooooh, 'it's noticed'. Really, by whom? The NSA? Shouldn't they be looking for
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jul 2013

terrorists or something?

And THANK YOU for taking all that time and trouble to post my comments about Chavez. I''m impressed with myself, every word is true and without your 'noticing' I would probably not have had the pleasure of reading my own words again.

This one eg, I will post it again as I don't think I got an answer to a question so many Democrats are asking:

No, that has not been the narrative at all. He is the POTUS and does get criticism for

some of his policies, for me the most disturbing thing about this administration is the number of Republicans he has appointed to powerful positions. I don't get that at all. And that there are few to no actual Progressive Dems in his cabinet. He has favored Corporate CEOs, Bush holdovers for economic positions, and people such as Gates et al when surely we have some Democrats who are qualified to be in a Democratic Cabinety.

It's odd because if any DUer says one positive thing about Ron Paul the same people who have zero to say about the President going much further than that and returning Republicans to power after we threw them out, slam them with epithets and charges of being 'Paulites'. By that logic, the President is more than just a Comey/Ashcroftite' since he has the power to give them power and has done so.

What do you think of all these Corporate Ceos, Monsanto, Booz Allen (Clapper, Republican, CEO of Booz Allen, Director of Intel) and Republicans being in a Democratic Administration? We didn't vote for Republicans, but that is what the President is doing each time he appoints another Republican to such powerful positions.


Every word a FACT. Do you have problems with facts? Can YOU answer my questions about all the REPUBLICANS in this administration?

I've read them all again, and I am very impressed with my adherence to issues rather than people, it's nice to see that despite all the personal attacks, such as YOURS to which I am responding, I manage to stay on the topic. But then I'm a Democrat, not a Freeper whose only fall back is usually to attack their opponents lacking the ability to defend their indefensible positions.

However, you failed to show anything post of mine that insulted the PRESIDENT personally, as I knew you could not. That WAS the accusation, was it not?

And I stand by and am proud of every post I made about Chavez who was a historical leader to his own people and will be remembered for what he contributed to the formation of the Latin American Alliance of Nations to ward off any more interference from the Western Imperial Powers.

Look, I'm sorry you don't like people pointing out the truth, or that people are way, way more informed than they used to be. Young people especially, free of all those ancient Cold War prejudices can see things far more clearly than the old Cold War Warriors who are still living in the past.

Btw, did you realize how often you used the pronoun 'YOU' again?

Nothing I said is false. You can't do shit without Congress, yet you're the one "getting angry" because things aren't to YOUR liking. You constantly criticize the guy about things that are TOTALLY outside his purview, like closing Gitmo,


You sound very angry to me. At me. I'm angry but not at anyone here, I am angry at what is happening in this country.

Since you failed to prove your claims, and yes, I most certainly WILL criticize policies I don't agree with, and no, he DOESN'T need to appoint Republicans to positions of power to get 'things done', gee, so what's the point of us voting for Democrats if it doesn't matter and we have to return Republicans to power to 'get things done'? What you're saying is we might as well vote for Republicans so we can get things done.

Stop with the excuses, they aren't working. I said plenty of nice things about Obama going back to 2004. I will say more nice things about him on a personal level, but I'm here to talk about POLITICS, not personalities. Just to please you though, he's a great father and husband and I think he probably really does believe that Reagan Policies are good for the country. But I disagree with him. I disagree with my brother, who I love and is also a wonderful father and husband about some things.

This is a political forum. Start a forum about personalities and I will be happy to say nice things about the President, but that has zero to do with politics and with policies.

And calm down, we've got this! Finally!

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Would that so-called Democrats would be a bit less nasty to their own President.... nt MADem Jul 2013 #1
Not something I'm engaging in. I criticize policies and focus on them cali Jul 2013 #3
It's responsive--it's the other side of that coin. MADem Jul 2013 #16
fine. I have no problem condemning comments that degrade the President. cali Jul 2013 #23
I don't play silly tit for tat games, I simply point out hypocrisies. MADem Jul 2013 #29
Bullshit. zeemike Jul 2013 #38
+1 and cali Jul 2013 #45
Someone actually said that and MuseRider Jul 2013 #82
Please Don't! cali Jul 2013 #86
I say this a lot anymore MuseRider Jul 2013 #95
The only thing that has changed is that the "mods" aren't cleaning up the mess and making MADem Jul 2013 #115
Well, let's see.... MADem Jul 2013 #72
right. hip hip hooray for ugly comments. fuck south america. this is cali Jul 2013 #89
Way to completely miss the point I was advancing. MADem Jul 2013 #121
it is YOU who misses CALI's point. AmBlue Jul 2013 #137
Oh please. Dial it down five notches. No plane was forced down. MADem Jul 2013 #141
Okay... you go on gushing about our emperor's fine suit of silk. AmBlue Jul 2013 #144
Listen to you, talking about "our emperor" on a Democratic message board! MADem Jul 2013 #147
Ever heard of an analogy? AmBlue Jul 2013 #152
Yes, good idea--no need to let anything that doesn't match your world view disturb your MADem Jul 2013 #153
Well to paraphrase a quote of a famous person zeemike Jul 2013 #90
Look, I'm not the one calling anyone a tin pot dictator, even though there MADem Jul 2013 #93
Well you do realize that Morales and Chavez were both elected in a democratic election don;t you? zeemike Jul 2013 #96
I realize that Chavez changed the rules to retain power, and Morales did as well. MADem Jul 2013 #99
You mean like the GOP changed the rules zeemike Jul 2013 #104
Oh, the "they did it too" excuse? Really? And you go back over MADem Jul 2013 #107
That was not my point at all. zeemike Jul 2013 #119
Whenever it's changed to give the SAME GUY continued power, I look askance. MADem Jul 2013 #123
I don't know what TMI is zeemike Jul 2013 #129
Too much information. It's a rather standard phrase. MADem Jul 2013 #142
The phrase I know zeemike Jul 2013 #145
No one is trying to discredit you. MADem Jul 2013 #146
Well I have never been given the third degree about it before zeemike Jul 2013 #149
It's not the third degree--it's simply a logical question which arose from your own assertions. nt MADem Jul 2013 #150
Which you found suspicious zeemike Jul 2013 #151
No--I simply noted that your assertion(s) didn't match your join date. MADem Jul 2013 #154
All facts that you care about. zeemike Jul 2013 #155
Does the fact that he doesn't have a Congress that will pass the laws he'd like to implement matter MADem Jul 2013 #157
Yes those facts matter to me zeemike Jul 2013 #158
+1 AmBlue Jul 2013 #138
It would be helpful in furthering the discussion on this site dgibby Jul 2013 #118
Yes, and it would also be nice if people could disagree "honestly" without using personal MADem Jul 2013 #124
Why do you even bother?? THESE PEOPLE SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE Number23 Jul 2013 #134
Yes indeed. MADem Jul 2013 #156
"our first black POTUS" magellan Jul 2013 #106
Not make exceptions--just give him the same damn consideration. MADem Jul 2013 #108
I hold him to the same standards I hold any president. magellan Jul 2013 #110
If the shoe does not fit you, don't cram it on your foot and then pout at me about it. MADem Jul 2013 #111
Just reading through this thread, as I do before deciding to comment magellan Jul 2013 #112
That struck me too. Stands out like a sore thumb. n/t dgibby Jul 2013 #113
Just as it stands out like a sore thumb when he's treated differently by posters here. nt MADem Jul 2013 #127
I see distress over Pres. Obama's POLICIES, not the person Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #133
Really, I haven't seen anyone trying to bring some facts to this conversation denigrating the Cleita Jul 2013 #47
Give us this day our daily bread--when does a week go by that someone isn't MADem Jul 2013 #101
If that's what is happening to you maybe you need to update your ignore list. Cleita Jul 2013 #128
I don't do ignore. I just don't see the point of it. MADem Jul 2013 #148
It's good to see you are condemning that kind of ugliness, which I'm sure you are sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #163
Morales is loving the publicity--can't you tell? This is the best thing that ever could have MADem Jul 2013 #166
You didn't answer the question, but so be it, I will draw my own conclusions. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #168
It's good to see you are condemning that kind of ugliness, which I'm sure you are sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #163
When criticism of the issue is interpreted as criticism of the person Pholus Jul 2013 #5
When criticism of the person gets denigrating and insulting, issues get pushed to the background. MADem Jul 2013 #14
Get thee hence to the rest of DU sibelian Jul 2013 #24
I cannot improve on this. Pholus Jul 2013 #28
+1 cali Jul 2013 #31
Young padawan...? MADem Jul 2013 #32
Psssst....some kids just walked on your lawn while you were busy hating on Harry Potter. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #135
I don't "hate" Harry Potter one bit. MADem Jul 2013 #140
I'm 44 and looking in both directions DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #143
Well, I'm considerably older than you. You could be my kid. MADem Jul 2013 #180
+1 LWolf Jul 2013 #37
Well said and exactly Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #39
+1 truebluegreen Jul 2013 #41
But it was okay to insult and denigrate Bush, right? kurtzapril4 Jul 2013 #43
Well that's where American Exceptualizm steps in ...but we're not going to start denigrating Satan! L0oniX Jul 2013 #56
Are you unclear as to the TOS of this website? MADem Jul 2013 #91
Not. At. All. Pholus Jul 2013 #102
You're trying to create a false construct, that suggests that anyone who MADem Jul 2013 #109
No different than the "Snowden, Snowden, Snowden" construct. Pholus Jul 2013 #114
Snowden's girlfriend is a key to the man. MADem Jul 2013 #126
Repeat: the man is not relevant. Pholus Jul 2013 #132
He's entirely relevant. You are ready and willing to believe everything he says, without evidence. MADem Jul 2013 #139
And you are conflating Pholus Jul 2013 #159
No, I'm not. MADem Jul 2013 #160
yes you are Pholus Jul 2013 #161
Well, we can play that game all day, but I'll just refer you back to my last post. nt MADem Jul 2013 #162
cool we are done. post 159 has the main point. Pholus Jul 2013 #169
"Unamerican" secrets-BAD. "Unrussian" secrets, or "Unchinese" secrets--good? MADem Jul 2013 #172
Hey the only reason national dragnets are secrets Pholus Jul 2013 #174
Whatever that word salad means..."LOL" ... nt MADem Jul 2013 #181
Huh. Seemed simple enough. But reading standards ARE in decline. Pholus Jul 2013 #191
Well, that's not true at all. MADem Jul 2013 #192
You may find this difficult to believe, dgibby Jul 2013 #120
How nice for you and those like you. Perhaps you can exhort the Hate Obama First Club to MADem Jul 2013 #122
Are you unclear about the Democratic Party's promises to those who voted for them? sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #170
You can't do shit without Congress. I guess that's a concept that is tough for you to grasp? MADem Jul 2013 #171
Why are you always so angry? And so very wrong? Anger blinds people. It makes them sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #175
Check your mirror. I am not angry. I'm very mellow, in fact. Quite content, today, especially. MADem Jul 2013 #178
Ooooh, 'it's noticed'. Really, by whom? The NSA? Shouldn't they be looking for sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #185
By whom? By ME. MADem Jul 2013 #186
Again you are wrong . I am not only willing to admit my 'bias' as you call it, I am sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #187
Again, you don't understand that CONGRESS gatekeeps who gets into the Cabinet, apparently. MADem Jul 2013 #189
"Issues get pushed to the background" AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #83
I think it might be on you.... nt MADem Jul 2013 #88
There are those that would be nasty, but the problem is that those defending the Pres rhett o rick Jul 2013 #33
Sort of like the disruptors running around calling anyone who has a problem MADem Jul 2013 #87
Whistle-blower character assassinations are typical authoritarian behavior. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #92
Because.... you say so? MADem Jul 2013 #94
"Valid critique"? I might agree that you might provide valid critiques but most of what I have rhett o rick Jul 2013 #98
You 'don't care' that Snowden hasn't proven his case. It sounds good, so that's MADem Jul 2013 #105
It is no longer Snowden's job to "prove" anything. I want pres Obama to prove that he is looking rhett o rick Jul 2013 #130
You want simple answers to complex issues, and you aren't going to get them. MADem Jul 2013 #131
First post, thread is disrupted by another irrelevant Obama comment. Everything is about Obama. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #165
Only if you think the leader of all Americans--including the ugly ones named in the OP, MADem Jul 2013 #167
Thanks for validating my point. No. It is not about Obama. Zorra Jul 2013 #173
Not sure how I "validated" your "point." I simply pointed out that Obama is the President of all MADem Jul 2013 #176
What in the hell are you talking about? I'm outta here, this is Zorra Jul 2013 #184
The President ... or his policies? RC Jul 2013 #177
Give him the Congress, and he'll give you the policies. MADem Jul 2013 #179
Where is Obama's bully pulpit? RC Jul 2013 #182
Because they can get CONFIRMED, that's why. MADem Jul 2013 #183
Right? CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #188
Day-um....! nt MADem Jul 2013 #190
And it's possible for John Kerry to say "backyard" without being just another gringo imperialist BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #2
Actually, it's really not Scootaloo Jul 2013 #4
Very true - there's a lot of difference between "our neighborhood" and "our backyard" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #7
you said it far better than I did. that's exactly it. cali Jul 2013 #8
That's absurd. ProSense Jul 2013 #17
Context, Pro, context. cali Jul 2013 #20
No ProSense Jul 2013 #22
lol. my but that's as lame as could possibly be in the face cali Jul 2013 #25
You know, ProSense Jul 2013 #26
no, just stating the obvious. As I said, I posted evidence and you did not, old Pro. cali Jul 2013 #30
You don't really want to start a link war do ya? L0oniX Jul 2013 #58
Cali is right Prosense. iemitsu Jul 2013 #57
Now you've done it. You are not of the body! L0oniX Jul 2013 #61
:) I'm not sure that this phantom is iemitsu Jul 2013 #63
Absolute nonsense. ProSense Jul 2013 #78
good reframe! good job! nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #103
You're putting it on display with this post, I'm afraid Scootaloo Jul 2013 #116
You probably haven't noticed but in diplomatic circles, words are chosen very carefully. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #136
Most Americans are in blissful ignorance of what our country has become. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #34
+1 zeemike Jul 2013 #44
You forgot to mention the depleted uranium that we iemitsu Jul 2013 #59
Yes, that's true. Quite a legacy. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #84
+1 leftstreet Jul 2013 #64
He could have chosen his words more carefully, no? cali Jul 2013 #6
It was a faux pas, it shouldn't be a death sentence for Kerry in the region BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #10
I agree with that. I don't think there was any malicious intent cali Jul 2013 #13
I actually agree with you on this one. arely staircase Jul 2013 #27
both a phrase and a pov cali Jul 2013 #35
agreed. I actually pointed the arrogance of the phrase out to a friend of mine years ago arely staircase Jul 2013 #36
Get familiar with the Monroe Doctrine nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #60
And I don't expect CT's to think clearly about much BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #62
It is a conspiracy theory to speak of the Monroe doctrine? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #65
Oh I know, you grew up down there and know the darker meaning of everything BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #68
You are proud of your ignorance Sir nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #70
When it comes to sovereign nations treestar Jul 2013 #76
Perhaps the reason there are no countries willing to take Snowden dgibby Jul 2013 #125
Yeah. ananda Jul 2013 #9
I love you first thing in the morning Cali Thank you. Catherina Jul 2013 #11
right back at you, my friend cali Jul 2013 #15
Thanks to both of you. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #55
There was a post yesterday that dropped as low as making comments about Morales' hairstyle. idwiyo Jul 2013 #12
They have nothing to give but the ROFL emoticon. That's their total rhett o rick Jul 2013 #48
I just had a look at the thread Pic Of The Moment: Restore The Fourth, amusing to see what usernames idwiyo Jul 2013 #51
The emoticon in place of content does define them, and that ROFL emoticon is Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #52
and another slimy post just now doing that and worse. cali Jul 2013 #66
Can you please PM me a link to that? idwiyo Jul 2013 #97
did someone really say that about the cyst? Enrique Jul 2013 #18
yes. cali Jul 2013 #21
Could you please post the jury comments? QC Jul 2013 #40
they weren't. they were almost all posted without comment, but here: cali Jul 2013 #50
that's the kind of post I'm glad is allowed to stand Enrique Jul 2013 #53
I'm not. you can always hit 'show post' cali Jul 2013 #54
You can still see that douchebag reply. It's been left intact. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2013 #42
k/r marmar Jul 2013 #19
Yes but it is a cyst of our own making. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #46
I don't know enough about HappyMe Jul 2013 #49
first ban all negative name calling of our president on DU Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #67
Won't call him names nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #69
Bully is a name. And he has been called that on here Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #71
Don't read foreign press. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #74
do editorial pages inform? Or try to persuade? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #75
Well even straight reporting is all but nice nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #80
Bully? You actually think calling the President a bully should be cali Jul 2013 #77
no. I said such name calling should be banned--not the poster Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #79
so, you're saying that a post calling the President a bully should be hidden? cali Jul 2013 #85
This is true treestar Jul 2013 #81
could you please link to some of these examples of negative name calling? cali Jul 2013 #73
You cannot expect much from trolls imo. Rex Jul 2013 #100
Name the person/thing du jour that's "making Obama look bad" magellan Jul 2013 #117
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