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DeschutesRiver

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111. Since there are quite a few different answers that he could have given which would

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:08 AM

Jul 2013

have been more satisfactory, yet completely noncommittal and not gotten him into trouble, I find his chosen response to be baffling. Thinking through situations in advance is not his strong suit.

Problem solving on this level isn't rocket science, but Zimmerman certainly struggles with it. Had he been better at it, this kid wouldn't have been dead.

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From this photo of Zimmerman, is it credible that he was defending himself against Trayvon Martin? [View all] AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 OP

As long as he doesn't have a heart attack... Pelican Jul 2013 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author allin99 Jul 2013 #82

In fairness, Zimmy was 100 lbs lighter than now... Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #2

Really? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #3

Yeah, I read he gained another 100 pounds while awaiting trial. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #4

I heard 120 to 130 pounds. ... spin Jul 2013 #20

I'm in my 40s Just Saying Jul 2013 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #45

I'm not disagreeing with you that Martin was a kid ... spin Jul 2013 #60

Sure seems like you're disagreeing. Just Saying Jul 2013 #65

We are debating a point that is totally irrelevant to the Zimmerman/Martin incident but ... spin Jul 2013 #69

Yeah he wasn't emancipated. Just Saying Jul 2013 #70

I agree. ... spin Jul 2013 #74

The 7-11 store video FarPoint Jul 2013 #102

Or a defense strategy Just Saying Jul 2013 #27

Fat, out of shape & not so "creepy". Myrina Jul 2013 #54

I think he's still pretty creepy. Just Saying Jul 2013 #64

Yeah, he's gained a boatload of weight nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #5

This is what he looked like at the time of the shooting Crabby Appleton Jul 2013 #9

He weighed 205 at the time Nevernose Jul 2013 #25

N/A RedstDem Jul 2013 #6

Legally... Pelican Jul 2013 #8

maybe legally RedstDem Jul 2013 #10

ONLY when you discover you've bitten off more than you can chew,... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #34

Not true Kurska Jul 2013 #11

ACTUALLY NO! It has to be a CREDIBLE offer of violence. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #35

why didn't he identify himself as neighborhood watch JI7 Jul 2013 #7

He was carrying a gun (against the rules)� He was looking out for himself. targetpractice Jul 2013 #14

He's gotten away w/ all kinds of shit Nevernose Jul 2013 #28

I think he's a text-book narcissist. targetpractice Jul 2013 #30

He actually went to work Nevernose Jul 2013 #33

At the time of the shooting, Jenoch Jul 2013 #12

NO -- the p.a. stated Z was 204 at the time of the incident anneboleyn Jul 2013 #15

I knew I read the Jenoch Jul 2013 #17

Incorrect� Martin was 5'11 and 158 lbs and Zimmerman was 5'8" and 200 lbs on Feb 26 2012... targetpractice Jul 2013 #16

5'11" and 158# IS about 6' and 160# Jenoch Jul 2013 #19

Close enough, and I trust you posted that in good faith. targetpractice Jul 2013 #21

I don't think 2# is really Jenoch Jul 2013 #24

Right. Trayvon was 5'11" and 158 lbs. His family was wrong when describing him as 6'. targetpractice Jul 2013 #26

I was not referring to the entirety of Jenoch Jul 2013 #29

An acknowledgement you made ONLY after you were corrected, and then AWAY... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #36

I stopped reading when you wrote Jenoch Jul 2013 #38

Mate, I'll play devil's advocate with the best of them, but some cases... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #39

Why are you babbling to me? Jenoch Jul 2013 #41

Because UNLIKE YOU I read everything YOU WROTE. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #42

So just to be clear.... Pelican Jul 2013 #47

What is legal about backing someone into a corner and then shooting... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #56

I really don't wish to write Jenoch Jul 2013 #52

Well thankfully we agree on at least one point. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #59

Please, please, please Jenoch Jul 2013 #63

Mea culpa. I will admit, you did not say those things. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #89

You call me a BIGOT with ZERO Jenoch Jul 2013 #90

I did apologise. Obviously a sentence or two past where you stopped reading. TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #92

It is now clear enough. Thank you. Jenoch Jul 2013 #94

Your first nutty response to me was at Jenoch Jul 2013 #99

the difference between 5'8" and 5'11" is 3", not 5" magical thyme Jul 2013 #49

Good lord, I'm embarrassed. targetpractice Jul 2013 #51

just remember, you should never drink and DU magical thyme Jul 2013 #53

The Kel-Tec PF9 is a double action only pistol. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #105

Thanks n/t targetpractice Jul 2013 #106

Gun lovers and bigots want to make Martin look like a big dangerous person. Hoyt Jul 2013 #22

That's the whole point. yardwork Jul 2013 #40

Don't even try it brush Jul 2013 #13

He lost weight for his right wing press junket last year� targetpractice Jul 2013 #18

Acutally, I'd say he lost weight because his "success" at dealing with "one of them"... TheMadMonk Jul 2013 #37

Zimmerman is an ass rightsideout Jul 2013 #23

very likely Vattel Jul 2013 #32

From this photo of Zimmerman, is it credible that he was defending himself against Trayvon Martin? Bonx Jul 2013 #44

Since on-scene EMT reported "Mucous Membrane Normal," AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #46

Looking forward to the "Zimmerman kicked his own ass" defense... Pelican Jul 2013 #50

#58 -nt Bonx Jul 2013 #62

Not really Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #48

No, sorry. If you follow me & confront me Myrina Jul 2013 #55

What do you mean by confront ? Bonx Jul 2013 #61

If you follow someone and get in their face in the dark, Just Saying Jul 2013 #66

What specifically does "get in their face" mean ? -nt Bonx Jul 2013 #67

Well I believe you have the right to get away from Just Saying Jul 2013 #68

So you think it's ok to physically assault someone for following you ? Bonx Jul 2013 #110

Well with comments like "F*** A****, always get away" on record and carrying a gun .... Myrina Jul 2013 #107

I'd be careful with that approach. ... spin Jul 2013 #73

Per JAG Counsel Captain (don't recall?) Carter (Zippy's Criminal Investigation Instructor) Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #75

You are making a false assumption. ... spin Jul 2013 #78

If I had any doubt in my mind, I would want him to walk. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #83

Yes. Considering your background. ... spin Jul 2013 #91

Um, yeah. Myrina Jul 2013 #108

My dh has worse nose bleeds. I've cut my legs while shaving and bled more. DeschutesRiver Jul 2013 #58

You may well be right. ... spin Jul 2013 #77

The dispatcher's 'instructions' were more like Jenoch Jul 2013 #85

Good point. (n/t) spin Jul 2013 #86

I attempted to make a simple Jenoch Jul 2013 #88

Zimmerman might be wise to leave the country. ... spin Jul 2013 #93

He told Hannity in his interview that if he could do it over again, he would not do DeschutesRiver Jul 2013 #97

It would have been foolish for him to say that he would have done things differently. ... spin Jul 2013 #100

Since there are quite a few different answers that he could have given which would DeschutesRiver Jul 2013 #111

That's not what he told Sean Hannity yardwork Jul 2013 #113

I didn't say Zimmerman was wise. ... spin Jul 2013 #116

I have been told off on this board OwnedByCats Jul 2013 #104

I have a concealed carry here in Oregon, for over 30 years, as has dh and DeschutesRiver Jul 2013 #96

Most of the talking heads I see on cable news are saying that the prosecution ... spin Jul 2013 #101

Yeah, have heard them saying that. We've gotten a chuckle out of it, as DeschutesRiver Jul 2013 #109

Eye witnesses said they didn't see a lot of injury SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #98

There is actually a lot of evidence out there that indicates how very minor his injuries were DeschutesRiver Jul 2013 #112

To me, that photo is proof that Zimmerman lied to police yardwork Jul 2013 #72

No burnodo Jul 2013 #103

I'm pretty sure TM could have outrun that tub of goo kudzu22 Jul 2013 #57

Don't forget GZ's DNA was found under TM's sweatshirt. displacedtexan Jul 2013 #71

Does that photo lead you to believe Trayvon ran from GZ and couldn't outrun him? Egalitariat Jul 2013 #76

I know a number of fat cops who chase down much thiner suspects ... spin Jul 2013 #79

Maybe it was steroids. Incitatus Jul 2013 #80

I hadn't thought about steroids. ... spin Jul 2013 #81

"walking heart attack" Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #84

That fast a weight gain might prove a death penalty ... spin Jul 2013 #87

I considered and rejected Jenoch Jul 2013 #95

I think he's on anti-depressants now yardwork Jul 2013 #114

That makes sense. Jenoch Jul 2013 #115