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MineralMan

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16. The media is beyond the control of most individuals.

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:09 AM

Jul 2013

It can be countered but, again, that has to be a local action. Despite everything, feet on the ground during campaigns can turn an election around, despite expensive campaigns run by outsiders.

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The rumor I'm hearing about 2016 [View all] Proud Public Servant Jul 2013 OP

Link please. nt. graham4anything Jul 2013 #1

I don't think rumors have links. If you don't believe it, fine! Doesn't change things. djean111 Jul 2013 #3

Sorry you did not like FDR and JFK. I consider them the 4th & 8th best President nt. graham4anything Jul 2013 #42

Also, she might be hurt by the XL Pipeline ReRe Jul 2013 #60

Here: morningfog Jul 2013 #7

That link is to this thread (so there is no link). I heard a rumor he wants to be Hillary's VP. nt. graham4anything Jul 2013 #28

You catch on quick Renew Deal Jul 2013 #30

There will be 20 people running, all for the golden 2nd spot. I hope Janet Napolitano gets the VP graham4anything Jul 2013 #31

Yes. Look how well it worked in England under Thatcher. n/t OnlinePoker Jul 2013 #32

Guess that goes back to the old "all women are the same" thing spouted by guys. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #37

That was McCain's logic too in 2008. Worked real well for him and Sarah. nt. graham4anything Jul 2013 #40

Yes, all guys spout this. n/t leeroysphitz Jul 2013 #46

Well,....maybe not Pee Wee Herman. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #67

I don't think that is what that poster meant. HappyMe Jul 2013 #72

Exactly OnlinePoker Jul 2013 #76

So was I.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #79

Oh okay. HappyMe Jul 2013 #81

Hillary is DLC...that's not good...we need someone movonne Jul 2013 #77

It's due to party manipulation. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #78

I doubt very seriously if Hillary Clinton would choose another woman as her totodeinhere Jul 2013 #59

Personally, if we have a woman on the ticket, I think it should be Warren... cascadiance Jul 2013 #66

Warren/Grayson is my dream. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2013 #68

The entire South. Riiiiiight. Bake Jul 2013 #64

Okay,....THAT was funny. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #35

An election dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #2

I love Sherrod! femmocrat Jul 2013 #4

He wont - they'll just ignore him Doctor_J Jul 2013 #5

And if it ever looks like he does have a hope, temporary311 Jul 2013 #75

So true. Even if he gets too "disruptive" during the early campaign Doctor_J Jul 2013 #90

There will be many rumors about 2016. MineralMan Jul 2013 #6

Absolutely. GOTV 2014 Skidmore Jul 2013 #8

It's amazing that people sometimes think that the Presidency MineralMan Jul 2013 #9

Excellent point. Now lets primary the conservatives pretending to be Democrats from the left! Scuba Jul 2013 #11

All Congressional House elections are local. MineralMan Jul 2013 #13

Agreed, with one exception ... Scuba Jul 2013 #15

The media is beyond the control of most individuals. MineralMan Jul 2013 #16

You bring up the age old conundrum. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #61

False choice ... Scuba Jul 2013 #74

Those are great goals but we have to get total control of Congress first including a filibuster totodeinhere Jul 2013 #83

We won't get the things I described by electing a bunch of DINOs. Scuba Jul 2013 #84

Not in some red states. Look at Utah for instance. In the last election, Jim totodeinhere Jul 2013 #89

Yes, it's Republican state governors and state legislatures drawing the district maps mountain grammy Jul 2013 #49

Every legislative or executive election is crucial. MineralMan Jul 2013 #52

I don't know what we DUers, who have been among the most activist campaigners sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #17

OK. I'm not sure what that has to do with MineralMan Jul 2013 #21

You're wrong. 2014 is not the upcoming election. Jim Lane Jul 2013 #92

I could vote for Sherrod Brown without holding my nose. Scuba Jul 2013 #10

I could too, my dear Scuba! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #12

The blogging tourist. Go visit with some locals! Scuba Jul 2013 #14

Well, I'm at 36, 000 feet......how do I do that??? CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #18

Wow! Posting on DU at 36,000 ft!! Does that make you a member of something madinmaryland Jul 2013 #20

My dear madinmaryland! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #24

Vacation over? Aw. Safe travels. Scuba Jul 2013 #22

The official part of the vacation is over, yes... CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #26

I would vote for him. HappyMe Jul 2013 #19

Agreed. AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #53

In reading the thread through, HappyMe Jul 2013 #57

Your observation is valid. AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #58

In addition to fighting voter supression.. Historic NY Jul 2013 #82

Glad to hear it. k&r n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #23

Sherrod Brown Is MY Senator ChoppinBroccoli Jul 2013 #25

Anything can happen between now and 2016 gopiscrap Jul 2013 #27

Glad to hear it! AnnieK401 Jul 2013 #29

Can you offer any background to the source of the rumor? brooklynite Jul 2013 #33

A bit Proud Public Servant Jul 2013 #38

Well, as I said, I have perdiodic contact with Sherrod... brooklynite Jul 2013 #63

Interesting Proud Public Servant Jul 2013 #86

People. people also say unnamed sources are BULLSHIT DainBramaged Jul 2013 #34

I'd call HorseHockey on something like this, but since they're rumors, they MUST be true meegbear Jul 2013 #36

I'm counting on Al Franken and/or Alan Grayson to step up to the plate. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #39

2 years WovenGems Jul 2013 #41

This could also be true in order to make it look like Hillary actually had to fight razorman Jul 2013 #43

Yay! bravenak Jul 2013 #44

I did not know that speculating on 2016 automatically means I am not interested in 2014. djean111 Jul 2013 #45

Sherrod is great. Quite a contrast from Hillary. DCBob Jul 2013 #47

He'd be a good candidate but Gman Jul 2013 #48

I'm voting for Elizabeth Warren FreeBC Jul 2013 #50

I agree... Warren is my favorite... Here's my list of who I'd like to see consider running... cascadiance Jul 2013 #56

Well, that would be fun! polichick Jul 2013 #51

Sherrod told me in '06 that he promised his wife he would never run for POTUS. nt Deep13 Jul 2013 #54

That would be a good thing. Sherrod Brown is certainly one of the good guys. LiberalAndProud Jul 2013 #55

wing of party JEFF9K Jul 2013 #62

Assuming Hillary wins the Dem Prez nomination, Sherrod Brown on the ticket could Larkspur Jul 2013 #65

The corporatists would never put Brown on the ticket with Ms. Clinton. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #69

I think we need to avoid "assuming" that Hillary wins the nomination at this point... cascadiance Jul 2013 #73

The rumor I am starting, er I mean have heard from incredible sources is the Chris Christie is switc rhett o rick Jul 2013 #70

Other than co-sponsering PIPA I could see getting behind him. joshcryer Jul 2013 #71

That would be OK. ananda Jul 2013 #80

I hope this rumor is true. 2016 is a long way away, but this would be welcome news. liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #85

We need Sherrod, or another good progressive running, even if they have little chance at the........ LongTomH Jul 2013 #87

I'd definitely support him. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #88

I like it. VP makes sense flamingdem Jul 2013 #91

why VP? burnodo Jul 2013 #93

Assuming Hillary is the pick for President flamingdem Jul 2013 #94