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liberal_at_heart

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2. exactly. When blue dog dems vote like republicans, the results are the same. We end up with very

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:27 AM

Jul 2013

similar policies. In a time when CEOs earn more in one day than an average worker will earn in a year, what are democrats doing to address fair wages? What are they doing to address funding our public school system? What are they doing to address higher education? Democrats can no longer fight solely for social justice and ignore economic justice. In my opinion, I'm tired of it being an either or. It is not social justice or economic justice. To me they are one in the same. You cannot have social justice without economic justice and vice versa. And I don't understand how in the last few year democrats have become stronger on the war issues than the republicans. Democrats use to be proud to be the anti-war party. What happened to that? Are democrats so obsessed with winning elections that they are willing to accept war as a part of their party platform now?

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Winning isn't everything as we have seen the last few years [View all] Harmony Blue Jul 2013 OP

I don't know. Gay marriage? ACA? Recursion Jul 2013 #1

When you have a twice-elected Democratic President calling for cuts to Social Security ... Scuba Jul 2013 #8

Yes. Much better he stomp his feet than deal with political really Recursion Jul 2013 #10

Your comment would be laughable if it wasn't so sad. Scuba Jul 2013 #12

better a president who accomplishes nothing than one who accomplishes pernicious things. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #36

You do realize Elizabeth Warren Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #14

Another laughable defense. Yes, Warren was appointed by Obama. That's a small gain... Scuba Jul 2013 #15

Then remove the sig Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #16

No, but thanks for your concern. Scuba Jul 2013 #17

I will give you one win there... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #20

So were the Clean Water Act and the Food Safety Act Recursion Jul 2013 #25

It is bad... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #26

There are a ton of limits. The 20% admin/profit cap, the requirement for state approval... Recursion Jul 2013 #27

Gay marriage LWolf Jul 2013 #22

I am for anything that expands access to health care Recursion Jul 2013 #28

My access to health care has not expanded. It has shrunk. LWolf Jul 2013 #34

exactly. When blue dog dems vote like republicans, the results are the same. We end up with very liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #2

Yes social justice has always been linked to economic justice Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #5

As my discussions with people who vote for republicans their main issue is of pro-life/pro-choice. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #3

The M$M only makes it look like the RW is winning siligut Jul 2013 #4

There's no real "divivde" in the democratic party...just some DU fudr IMHO uponit7771 Jul 2013 #6

Based on how the nation perceives the NSA stories and how Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #7

There's a huge divide. Scuba Jul 2013 #11

True. There's no longer much Left left leftstreet Jul 2013 #13

What divide in the Democratic Party? JaneyVee Jul 2013 #9

In the actual party, like at precinct meetings? I haven't seen any, really Recursion Jul 2013 #31

But there's always a bit of a split, we're a big tent party. We unite at the polls. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #37

Republican Rats Rule Democratic Cats DeSwiss Jul 2013 #18

And then there is the nineteen50 Jul 2013 #19

The ONLY win is when ideas win. LWolf Jul 2013 #21

Ideas don't accomplish anything; people do Recursion Jul 2013 #29

People win when their ideas do. LWolf Jul 2013 #32

OK, but the classic retort is "that's the attitude that gets us McGovern and Mondale" Recursion Jul 2013 #33

I'd rather work for a McGovern LWolf Jul 2013 #35

Um, Republicans won a majority of House seats. Kind of forgot to address that fact. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #23

Winning is necessary but not sufficient Recursion Jul 2013 #30

There is no substitute for victory nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #38

Republicans thought winning the House could set the tone Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #39

Excellent analysis! Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #24