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noamnety

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33. I'm not sure employers even consider a high school diploma
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:50 AM
Jul 2013

once you have some college under your belt. They look at the highest level of education completed - like you said - as one aspect.

When I was about the same age as Snowden is now, I was a GS13 (civilian equivalent of roughly a Lieutenant Colonel), without a high school diploma or GED. So his pay scale seems high - but not unbelievable for a contractor, if he had the skills to back it up. One thing that adds to salary is if you can combine some sort of technical skill with the more general background knowledge. For me once I was a contractor, that was graphics plus military intelligence, which gave me a somewhat unique ability to both analyze and communicate information. (Big Edward Tufte fan here!) That made me more marketable than if I just had the art background but needed people tell me what to put in the charts, or if I had the intel background but no real grasp of how to use the info for effective briefings.

I'm guessing Snowden's salary reflected that he could do the hacking/IT part, but also had enough background knowledge from previous jobs at NSA and embassies and even reading political blogs, to be able to hone in on what was important. (Pure speculation on my part there.)

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It means that some punk w/o a HS diploma gets a 6 figure job at MichiganVote Jul 2013 #1
That's just stupid Spider Jerusalem Jul 2013 #2
Thank you. I knew someone would save me from thinking rationally. MichiganVote Jul 2013 #4
Interesting questions noamnety Jul 2013 #7
You are weighing the same arguments re: ethics that are taught in HS&College. MichiganVote Jul 2013 #9
I raised the ethics questions noamnety Jul 2013 #16
Nor do I. But his entire life is fair game. He chose MichiganVote Jul 2013 #34
His entire life is fair game - that's the part I'm questioning. noamnety Jul 2013 #35
That's just stupid yeoman6987 Jul 2013 #32
I'm not sure employers even consider a high school diploma noamnety Jul 2013 #33
So you think it's resentment? noamnety Jul 2013 #3
Maybe he is a loser. Plenty of people w/ or w/o a diploma who are. MichiganVote Jul 2013 #5
The psychology of secret agents is quite interesting -- FarCenter Jul 2013 #6
I should probably add in a disclaimer here. noamnety Jul 2013 #8
It's bullshit. Mariana Jul 2013 #15
I think it has more to do with scoring points off somebody. nt rrneck Jul 2013 #10
My spouse never graduated high school. Silver Swan Jul 2013 #11
I've noticed too, the hostility about this toward Snowden. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #12
there is absolutely elitism on this board. Just try advocating for students in liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #13
The career trajectory is quite odd: high school dropout, junior college courses, GED, struggle4progress Jul 2013 #14
It's the defining characteristic for some. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #17
Some of the best sysadmins I've worked with had little formal education Recursion Jul 2013 #18
That's how I used to hire too - for graphics. noamnety Jul 2013 #22
One of the smartest people I know XemaSab Jul 2013 #19
High school is such a small fraction of time in ones lives too. penultimate Jul 2013 #23
I find comments that put him down for it to be bothersome, but I get why some people are WTF about penultimate Jul 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2013 #21
That feels like a separate thread to me noamnety Jul 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2013 #25
+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #26
I don't think anyone's arguing that on any level. noamnety Jul 2013 #27
I have a PhD but dropped out of high school-- twice.... mike_c Jul 2013 #28
What's your reaction to the "high school dropout" comments about Snowden? noamnety Jul 2013 #29
I find his having not completed HS irrelevant... mike_c Jul 2013 #30
The people who do that are authoritarians. To them, Snowden's educational history show's Marr Jul 2013 #31
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