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11. I have said from the very beginning of this abomination of a bill

Reply to Nanjing to Seoul (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:00 PM

Jul 2013

that we, as a nation, would come to regret this massive loss of rights, and the chickens have come home to roost.
I don't quite think it's too late to turn this around, but the time is fast approaching that the loss of our individual and collective rights will be irreversible.

We truly need to elect true progressive reps. who are strong supporters of our civil rights and undo this mess and we need to do it soon, remember, in the words of Nancy Pelosi, "Elections have consequences"!

So, in 2014, let's get out there and vote, vote, vote.

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Who didn't see this power grab coming? I saw it with the USA PATRIOT ACT [View all] Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 OP

The American people begged for it mindwalker_i Jul 2013 #1

Panicked lemmings. L0oniX Jul 2013 #14

The American people were in shock. felix_numinous Jul 2013 #28

I voted for Barack Obama to dismantle the Patriot Act and end domestic spying. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #2

...and he can do that without congress!? Come on, these a winger\FUDr memes and they're overt uponit7771 Jul 2013 #3

He signed the bill without a quibble. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #5

Your point? tia uponit7771 Jul 2013 #17

You stated he cant do anything without Congress. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #20

I never stated that Obama can do NOTHING without congress, strawman noted. uponit7771 Jul 2013 #22

Wake up and smell the coffee. lark Jul 2013 #15

I don't like it so it's another thing on the list to change. I don't hate America's government and I uponit7771 Jul 2013 #18

Technical note: I think your item #1 should read 'Truck drivers HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #4

I think that a great number of us saw the usage of 9/11 as The Second Stone Jul 2013 #6

Way too recent. Nixon tried (and won), Reagan and Bush 41 tried (and won)... EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #7

True. But the ONE thing that NOBODY saw coming Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #8

I believe it began with the Supreme Court Coup in 2000. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #9

1950, imho, the MIC has worked for decades to achieve this outcome. saidsimplesimon Jul 2013 #13

That lays it all out there Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #10

I have said from the very beginning of this abomination of a bill premium Jul 2013 #11

Honestly? I think we have as much chance of turning this around as we do Global Climate Change. eShirl Jul 2013 #21

And that kind of pessimism gets us nowhere, premium Jul 2013 #23

Not claiming to have any answers, just coming to a realization. eShirl Jul 2013 #24

Ok, that's a fair point. premium Jul 2013 #25

"Choose your leaders" ??? You can't vote Goldman Sachs out of office. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #12

It has evolved. kentuck Jul 2013 #16

Umm...It's not about terrorism... truth2power Jul 2013 #19

If I recall correctly the Patriot act wasn't even written with terrorists in mind. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #27

Actually, we talked about it Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #26