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25. Ok, that's a fair point.

Reply to eShirl (Reply #24)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 02:17 PM

Jul 2013

Sorry if I seemed a little harsh, I just won't give up, I was brought up to never give up as long as I can draw a breath.

I have confidence, maybe misplaced, that sooner or later, there's going to be a major development/incident/event, that will be the catalyst for a revolution, peaceful revolution preferred, but a revolution nonetheless.
I'm the eternal optimist.

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Who didn't see this power grab coming? I saw it with the USA PATRIOT ACT [View all] Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 OP

The American people begged for it mindwalker_i Jul 2013 #1

Panicked lemmings. L0oniX Jul 2013 #14

The American people were in shock. felix_numinous Jul 2013 #28

I voted for Barack Obama to dismantle the Patriot Act and end domestic spying. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #2

...and he can do that without congress!? Come on, these a winger\FUDr memes and they're overt uponit7771 Jul 2013 #3

He signed the bill without a quibble. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #5

Your point? tia uponit7771 Jul 2013 #17

You stated he cant do anything without Congress. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #20

I never stated that Obama can do NOTHING without congress, strawman noted. uponit7771 Jul 2013 #22

Wake up and smell the coffee. lark Jul 2013 #15

I don't like it so it's another thing on the list to change. I don't hate America's government and I uponit7771 Jul 2013 #18

Technical note: I think your item #1 should read 'Truck drivers HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #4

I think that a great number of us saw the usage of 9/11 as The Second Stone Jul 2013 #6

Way too recent. Nixon tried (and won), Reagan and Bush 41 tried (and won)... EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #7

True. But the ONE thing that NOBODY saw coming Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #8

I believe it began with the Supreme Court Coup in 2000. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #9

1950, imho, the MIC has worked for decades to achieve this outcome. saidsimplesimon Jul 2013 #13

That lays it all out there Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #10

I have said from the very beginning of this abomination of a bill premium Jul 2013 #11

Honestly? I think we have as much chance of turning this around as we do Global Climate Change. eShirl Jul 2013 #21

And that kind of pessimism gets us nowhere, premium Jul 2013 #23

Not claiming to have any answers, just coming to a realization. eShirl Jul 2013 #24

Ok, that's a fair point. premium Jul 2013 #25

"Choose your leaders" ??? You can't vote Goldman Sachs out of office. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #12

It has evolved. kentuck Jul 2013 #16

Umm...It's not about terrorism... truth2power Jul 2013 #19

If I recall correctly the Patriot act wasn't even written with terrorists in mind. A Simple Game Jul 2013 #27

Actually, we talked about it Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #26