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56. Was about to post the same point and see you already did

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #47)

Thu Feb 16, 2012, 08:35 PM

Feb 2012

And stated much better than I would likely have done.

+ 1,000 Uncle Joe

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Must read- Instead of being disgusted by poverty, we are disgusted by poor people themselves [View all] malaise Feb 2012 OP

"The idea that ultimately the poor must help themselves as social mobility grinds to a halt" MADNESS stockholmer Feb 2012 #1

if money is a 'resource' -- and that 'resource' is becoming more scarce -- xchrom Feb 2012 #2

Money is not a "resource," but a convention--i.e., a set of agreed upon expectations. tblue37 Feb 2012 #49

I put it in quotations for a reason - for ordinary people xchrom Feb 2012 #51

Agreed. nt tblue37 Feb 2012 #52

k n r n2doc Feb 2012 #3

To the contrary...we are seeing a huge movement in the advance of the poor of the world in China dkf Feb 2012 #4

The undeserving poor. Blame the victims. PotatoChip Feb 2012 #5

The number of people China has moved out of poverty equals the entire population of the US. dkf Feb 2012 #7

By whose figures libtodeath Feb 2012 #16

UN program dkf Feb 2012 #18

But it doesnt libtodeath Feb 2012 #21

Well this report is already old and we know Chinese GDP is healthy. dkf Feb 2012 #22

I've got $10,000 that says you wrote that on a Mac. :3 nt sudopod Feb 2012 #29

China's middle class was built by taking jobs from educated Americans. Zalatix Feb 2012 #61

China's internal demand is starting to get to a point that can be sustaining. dkf Feb 2012 #63

Then if this is true we can take our jobs back and save our workers, right? Zalatix Feb 2012 #64

it's the jobs, not education alone eShirl Feb 2012 #8

I do think that Government has a role to play in creating a field that is conducive to hiring. dkf Feb 2012 #12

If government jobs didn't solve economic problems lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #41

the poster you're replying to = yet another free trader who finds that NOBODY agrees with him. Zalatix Feb 2012 #62

Right. As if all the farmer peasants in China suddenly got a bacehlors degree in engineering geckosfeet Feb 2012 #10

For those without education, diligence, flexibility and skill can work too. dkf Feb 2012 #15

"Apple's executives" - enough said there. geckosfeet Feb 2012 #17

Aka employer dkf Feb 2012 #19

Yes. Worship and grovel at their feet for a few crumbs. geckosfeet Feb 2012 #20

Crumbs = a job? Is it really that insignificant to you? dkf Feb 2012 #24

The people in China are slaves. So much so the Foxcon site had to put up nets to stop the suicides LiberalLoner Feb 2012 #28

If "made in the usa" isn't a viable option for apple, "sold in the usa" shouldn't either. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #39

If "made in the usa" isn't a viable option for apple, "sold in the usa" shouldn't either. REPEAT!!! Zalatix Feb 2012 #42

Gresham's dynamic, not lazy poor people in the US is responsible for the outsourcing of jobs. PA Democrat Feb 2012 #26

Well said. +1 nt. hifiguy Feb 2012 #31

Stop pitting the poor in China against the middle class here --it's not a zero sum game CreekDog Feb 2012 #38

You deny that our jobs are moving to India and China? Or that it's impoverishing our people? Zalatix Feb 2012 #44

So exactly what kind of education should my severely disabled daughter who is a victim of water jwirr Feb 2012 #46

Hmmph. At some point the poor will help themselves - just not in the way we expect. geckosfeet Feb 2012 #6

So let's say they do take it at a point of uprising... dkf Feb 2012 #9

I do not pretend to know the mindset of the poor. And clearly you have not a clue either. geckosfeet Feb 2012 #11

Yet there but for the Grace of God..... Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #13

Exactly what those who have little themselves but are not yet on the lowest rung SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #23

Bingo! GoCubsGo Feb 2012 #66

Demonization (of the poor, public employees, union members, liberals, gays, etc.) a key RW tactic. pampango Feb 2012 #14

K&R Solly Mack Feb 2012 #25

Neither of those disgust me. I am disgusted by bad behavior, no matter who does it, or how much... slackmaster Feb 2012 #27

Well, as long as you are properly disgusted sudopod Feb 2012 #30

Just keep your sudopod off my chitinous exoskeleton and we'll get along fine slackmaster Feb 2012 #32

:) nt sudopod Feb 2012 #33

lol stockholmer Feb 2012 #34

+1 Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #37

K&R PhoenixAbove Feb 2012 #35

K&R woo me with science Feb 2012 #36

It's called Social Darwinism, and it's making a big comeback. Zalatix Feb 2012 #40

k&r n/t RainDog Feb 2012 #43

Of course we are back in the Calvanist era where the poor are sinners being punished for their sins. jwirr Feb 2012 #45

I believe that "disgust" is based on fear. The fear of becoming poor leads to an emotional barrier Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #47

Was about to post the same point and see you already did suffragette Feb 2012 #56

Thanks for those links Uncle Joe malaise Feb 2012 #57

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another K and R etherealtruth Feb 2012 #53

Interesting. Rex Feb 2012 #54

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2012 #55

K & R ! n/t veness Feb 2012 #58

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There was a placard saying being shared on FB liberalhistorian Feb 2012 #60

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