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HooptieWagon

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37. Obviously its a military coup.

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:46 PM

Jul 2013

Obama is being dishonest again. And again the US will back a dictatorship over a democratically elected leader...we have a loooong history of that.

IMO, neither option is a good one for Egypt, or the US. So many times in the past we've interfered and fucked the situation up worse than before... to everyine's detriment. Sen Leahy's proposal is a good one. Suspend aid temporarily, and let the Egyptians sort it out on their own. When the country has stabilized, and there is a government in control keeping order, then resumption of aid can be negotiated.

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When Is A Military Coup Not A Military Coup? When The White House Says So. [View all] cali Jul 2013 OP

Why use one word when you can use six" dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #1

this disgusts me. there's no other way to put it. cali Jul 2013 #3

Didn't we see this before in Honduras? Downwinder Jul 2013 #2

It was a "military overthow of a democratically elected government" that people were cheering. ProSense Jul 2013 #4

So the hell what? The definition of a military coup is clear- as Senator Leahy cali Jul 2013 #5

I was ProSense Jul 2013 #8

if you concede that it is a military coup, then you must also cali Jul 2013 #11

Yes, but ProSense Jul 2013 #13

damn I agree with ProSense :) nt friendlyFRIEND Jul 2013 #9

This is a recent law made in 2011... Otherwise, I probably would have had to leave Turkey in 1971.. cascadiance Jul 2013 #21

I find that I cannot get upset about this coup cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #6

and the massacre this morning by the military? cali Jul 2013 #7

and the massacre yesterday of teenagers thrown off rooftops friendlyFRIEND Jul 2013 #10

not the same thing. A horrible crime but not one done by the government. cali Jul 2013 #12

committed by henchman OF the former government. nt friendlyFRIEND Jul 2013 #14

and what part of that makes them part of any government? cali Jul 2013 #15

oh ffs... friendlyFRIEND Jul 2013 #18

I don't know yet. who the fuck says that Egyptians are going to get another chance at good gov't? cali Jul 2013 #23

I believe that the military needs to keep order friendlyFRIEND Jul 2013 #26

Fair enough. I disagree. I think that's the authoritarian pov cali Jul 2013 #28

let me clarify Cali. friendlyFRIEND Jul 2013 #29

That would be the best outcome. I have grave doubts about its likelihood cali Jul 2013 #31

Thats the equivalent dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #16

Also bad Scootaloo Jul 2013 #17

at prayer? friendlyFRIEND Jul 2013 #20

When it comes to the military firing on civilians... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #22

MSNBC's analyst on the ground referred a few days ago to a difference in the military's patrice Jul 2013 #32

When the military has been in charge all along. MineralMan Jul 2013 #19

Morsi was democratically elected , then turned around and made himself a dictator. octoberlib Jul 2013 #24

Oh please. You think there's a lot of support for the military after this morning cali Jul 2013 #25

The people may not support the military now but they also octoberlib Jul 2013 #33

Where did you go to college? A coup is a coup. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #40

Yes, it is still a coup whether it's military octoberlib Jul 2013 #41

Does the need to figure out who killed these people today create any perspective at all on the patrice Jul 2013 #27

The White House said..."We are going to take the time necessary to review" Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #30

Pat Leahy chair of the sub committe that governs this aid cali Jul 2013 #34

And I'm sure Patrick Leahy's input will be taken into consideration Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #36

Isn't the Speaker of the House the 3rd in line? n/t dgibby Jul 2013 #38

no. it's vp, speaker then president pro tempore of the senate. cali Jul 2013 #42

Yep....its about money..and semantics..if they call it a military coup...US law says we stop funding Gin Jul 2013 #35

Obviously its a military coup. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #37

Juan Cole called it a "revocouption". With millions in the street it was not your typical coup but pampango Jul 2013 #39

Don't be surprised if Jay Carney comes out tomorrow and says the administration has it cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #43