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nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:40 PM Feb 2012

BREAKING: FLA on track to SLASH minimum wage from $4.65 to **$2.13** for tipped-income workers [View all]

Apologies if this has already been posted. I feel very strongly about this.

Waitressing is the hardest work I've ever done, and for every $100 night I had 3 nights that my hourly wage was the lion's share of my earning. But understand, this bill affect all tipped-income workers including salon, valet and car wash workers, whose tipping etiquette doesn't come close to dictating 15-20% on the dollar.

Speaking of tipping etiquette, how could it not evolve upwards to cover this loss, shifting cost to the consumer as well as the worker. For the so-called fiscal conservatives proposing this -- what sense does it make to create an inflationary spiral on the consumer end of the economy, which is supposedly our last best hope for easing out of the Great Recession.

It's worth mentioning that we, the normal people of the 99%, wear both the hats of consumer and worker, so we're getting hit twice here, and all indications are that this is an just opening shot in a full-spectrum class war being fought by Rick Scott against working Floridians.

Florida is also debating a bill to provide huge tax cuts to any NON-UNIONIZED companies moving to Florida. The message: Florida lawmakers are selling off Floridians as slave labor to all comers.



(please leave a comment at the story on the Orlando Sentinel link below and let Floridians know you support them. A group of workers' rights organizations and Occupy Orlando are protesting in front of The Outback Steakhouse on Sand Lake Road near the Florida Mall at 2pm tomorrow -- we are taking this very seriously and we need your help. We need this to go beyond Florida, b/c this sort of ALEC legislation is cropping up everywhere. Please also spread the word via Facebook, Twitter, etc.)


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-florida-tipped-minimum-wage-20120215,0,397929.story


Senate panel OKs slashing hourly pay for servers, bartenders, others
By Sandra Pedicini, Orlando Sentinel
6:03 p.m. EST, February 16, 2012

(snip)

The bill (SB 2106), approved by a Senate committee Thursday, would allow restaurants and other employers to pay their staffs the federal tipped minimum wage of $2.13 an hour instead of Florida's minimum of $4.65. To qualify, companies would have to guarantee that employees would make at least $9.98 an hour, when tips are included.

Opponents say it would cut the pay for people like Charles Spencer, who's working his way through school by waiting tables at Raglan Road Irish Pub and Restaurant in Downtown Disney. He said his wage of $11 to $12 an hour pays the bills — but barely.

"It's a lot of canned vegetables and grilled chicken and ramen noodles," said Spencer, 25, adding, "I was rather appalled by the fact they're going to try to cut a wage standard in this economy."

(snip)

"That base pay is actually really important," said Wolford, 39, whose budget is so tight she cannot afford health insurance.

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Florida is a cesspool. It should be ashamed of itself. nt valerief Feb 2012 #1
+100 and I live here n/;t geomon666 Feb 2012 #14
Yeah, there are some good people in Florida, just not nearly enough. nt valerief Feb 2012 #32
FLA is a solid majority Dem state demographically. nashville_brook Feb 2012 #52
That's how Rick Scott got elected? nt valerief Feb 2012 #57
districts have been drawn to make it impossible for the majority to be represented nashville_brook Feb 2012 #59
By two points. Speak not of what you know not, please. DirkGently Feb 2012 #62
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #66
space coast?me too SwampG8r Feb 2012 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author DirkGently Feb 2012 #75
That's all they needed to steal. nt valerief Feb 2012 #77
Other states have similar problems. Massachusetts, for example, pays only $2.63 to tipped workers. DirkGently Feb 2012 #78
That's criminal! Damn rethuglican cesspool. nt valerief Feb 2012 #84
a florida democrat is likely to vote SwampG8r Feb 2012 #73
Not any worse than Arizona. lonestarnot Feb 2012 #15
Arizona is a double turd cesspool. nt valerief Feb 2012 #30
And Massachusetts replaced a Kennedy with a Teabagger. Pointless to state bash. DirkGently Feb 2012 #63
You won't get any arguments from me about Massachusetts! nt valerief Feb 2012 #76
This is a nationwide push to put the screws to workers, women, & unions. DirkGently Feb 2012 #79
I know. I get so discouraged. nt valerief Feb 2012 #83
Just wonderful RockaFowler Feb 2012 #2
we need more progressives engaged at the state level -- it's where the action is. nashville_brook Feb 2012 #29
Hopefully this will go the way of privatizing the prisons. Absolutely awful..n/t monmouth Feb 2012 #3
Oh you mean like where private prison operators are offering... TheMadMonk Feb 2012 #34
Rick Scott is going to push thru private prisons by executive order. nashville_brook Feb 2012 #50
The state that gave us Shrub. orpupilofnature57 Feb 2012 #4
the Supreme Court gave you Bush. If the votes had been counted, we elected Gore. nashville_brook Feb 2012 #11
Florida will rip itself from the other 48 states so that it The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #5
Honestly jsmirman Feb 2012 #6
Seconded. Kaleko Feb 2012 #41
Yes, I did some waitress work for a short period of time. RebelOne Feb 2012 #7
Republicans are also looking to strip rail & transportation workers of minimum wage.... lib2DaBone Feb 2012 #8
The irony is, this penalizes those who provide better service and get more tips. TheWraith Feb 2012 #9
Nice numbers, that's really eye opening, they're punishing the good servers for sure. joshcryer Feb 2012 #13
The numbers are theoretical, but the premise is basically accurate. TheWraith Feb 2012 #20
There's something in mathematics or economics that talks about this though. joshcryer Feb 2012 #44
the restaurant industry is predicated on SwampG8r Feb 2012 #43
what's amazing is that the people who patronize restaurants either don't know or don't care nashville_brook Feb 2012 #48
i put it all on the owners SwampG8r Feb 2012 #71
they're acutally using the "base rate" argument to say workers won't "feel" it. nashville_brook Feb 2012 #21
I hadn't thought of it that way Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #47
If I was still managing restaurants Sgent Feb 2012 #82
It's only about $2.70 in very liberal MA.,with a much higher cost of living. virgogal Feb 2012 #10
They are treated like crap jsmirman Feb 2012 #18
Well said Remember Me Feb 2012 #22
that's sick. nt limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #12
Doesn't federal law over ride that? Nt marlakay Feb 2012 #16
Isn't federal law worse? Fla_Democrat Feb 2012 #70
USA! USA! USA! sarcasmo Feb 2012 #17
WTF?~?~?~?~?~ benld74 Feb 2012 #19
I make $12 an hour - it sucks. Initech Feb 2012 #23
another aspect is that few of these jobs have benefits. no sick days, no healthcare, no vacation... nashville_brook Feb 2012 #25
Yup - I get absolutely none of those benefits. Initech Feb 2012 #28
i'm sending my best wishes and vibes that you find that way out :) nashville_brook Feb 2012 #33
I made $2/hour as a waitress...IN 1984!!!! Sabriel Feb 2012 #24
you are correct -- this hits women and children disproportionately. nashville_brook Feb 2012 #26
GOP in NH want to repeal Lunch Break Law got root Feb 2012 #27
in the ALEC century...the Citizens United century... nashville_brook Feb 2012 #56
wtf? RainDog Feb 2012 #31
If I lived and ate out in Florida I would be very wary what was in my food if it passes. RegieRocker Feb 2012 #35
good point. nashville_brook Feb 2012 #37
The 1% owns Florida lock, stock and barrel Kingofalldems Feb 2012 #36
i did the restaurant thing in Indiana and Arizona for pnwest Feb 2012 #38
I made more than that in VA in the mid eighties. salin Feb 2012 #39
AMAZInG anything to keep the working poor down... Justice wanted Feb 2012 #40
So all restaurants will be dropping their prices, right? quakerboy Feb 2012 #42
don't get me started on the salary issue. nashville_brook Feb 2012 #46
In Greece Min wage got cut 22% why did anyone thing it wouldnt happen here? Katashi_itto Feb 2012 #45
they always go for the little guy/gal avote foryou Feb 2012 #49
they go after us (the little ones) b/c no one has our back. nashville_brook Feb 2012 #51
Florida DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #53
this is the best, most informed comment on Florida I've seen casually on the internets... nashville_brook Feb 2012 #54
Thanks DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #67
"...I get really tired of dealing with the fact that the very worst in people is celebrated here." Lost-in-FL Feb 2012 #58
I'm conflicted about this. Hosnon Feb 2012 #55
The GOP... party for Sociopaths fascisthunter Feb 2012 #60
Way to kick workers & consumers in the teeth, restaurants. DirkGently Feb 2012 #61
You know what really irks me? SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #64
^^ what you said! nashville_brook Feb 2012 #65
By legislation? Or vote? How can they do that when Fed sets min. wage? Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #68
The federal minimum wage Sgent Feb 2012 #80
Oh, I see. I thought the approx $6 min. wage was for everything. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #85
States that require restaurants to pay real minimum wage Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2012 #69
$2? Wow, well looks like you can basically get away paying slave wages in FL? fujiyama Feb 2012 #74
The whole tipping thing just seems to be to be a slap in the face of serving staff. madinmaryland Feb 2012 #81
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