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Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:18 PM Jul 2013

President Obama Considering Faster Pullout of Afghanistan W/No Troops Left Behind [View all]

from the NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/09/world/asia/frustrated-obama-considers-full-troop-withdrawal-from-afghanistan.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0


WASHINGTON — Increasingly frustrated by his dealings with President Hamid Karzai, President Obama is giving serious consideration to speeding up the withdrawal of United States forces from Afghanistan and to a “zero option” that would leave no American troops there after next year, according to American and European officials.

Mr. Obama is committed to ending America’s military involvement in Afghanistan by the end of 2014, and Obama administration officials have been negotiating with Afghan officials about leaving a small “residual force” behind. But his relationship with Mr. Karzai has been slowly unraveling, and reached a new low after an effort last month by the United States to begin peace talks with the Taliban in Qatar.


The option of leaving no troops in Afghanistan after 2014 was gaining momentum before the June 27 video conference, according to the officials. But since then, the idea of a complete military exit similar to the American military pullout from Iraq has gone from being considered the worst-case scenario — and a useful negotiating tool with Mr. Karzai — to an alternative under serious consideration in Washington and Kabul.

The officials cautioned that no decisions had been made on the pace of the pullout and exactly how many American troops to leave behind in Afghanistan. The goal remains negotiating a long-term security deal, they said, but the hardening of negotiating stances on both sides could result in a repeat of what happened in Iraq, where a deal failed to materialize despite widespread expectations that a compromise would be reached and American forces would remain.

“There’s always been a zero option, but it was not seen as the main option,” said a senior Western official in Kabul. “It is now becoming one of them, and if you listen to some people in Washington, it is maybe now being seen as a realistic path.”


read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/09/world/asia/frustrated-obama-considers-full-troop-withdrawal-from-afghanistan.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0&smid=tw-share

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Just like it happened when the Russians left, I fear for the girls and women. Beacool Jul 2013 #1
What do you want us to do? Pirate Smile Jul 2013 #2
Leave a presence to impede the Taliban from taking over the country. Beacool Jul 2013 #40
they will revert to what they've done for past 3000 years nt msongs Jul 2013 #3
Is it right to allow that? nt bluestate10 Jul 2013 #4
No, but where's the money to not allow that? Amonester Jul 2013 #5
Is it our place to stop it? We haven't stopped the genocide in the Congo cali Jul 2013 #35
What exactly are you trying to say with this post? Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #29
That's not exactly so. Beacool Jul 2013 #41
that seems unrealistic bigtree Jul 2013 #7
Of course we're number one and need to show that we can xtraxritical Jul 2013 #24
You have asked the only important question Recursion Jul 2013 #31
I don't know the answer to your valid points, Beacool Jul 2013 #42
I dunno bigtree Jul 2013 #47
You could say the same thing about Texas. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #21
I fear more for the wedding parties and sleeping children that the bombs have "been there" for. Alamuti Lotus Jul 2013 #30
I don't disagree. Beacool Jul 2013 #43
Does anyone else see the connection to Edward Snowden ? kentuck Jul 2013 #6
No. phleshdef Jul 2013 #8
The terrorists now have the word... kentuck Jul 2013 #13
Don't you see one with Rick Perry? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #22
Sounds like their work is done. Cha Jul 2013 #9
our troops have done all that our men and women in uniform should be expected to in Afghanistan bigtree Jul 2013 #12
Perzactly! Cha Jul 2013 #14
oh hell yes and please AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #10
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #11
Call it Operation Fuckit NightWatcher Jul 2013 #15
call it Operation Limits bigtree Jul 2013 #18
Of course Vietnam taught us none of those things. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #26
Wag the dog Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #16
DU AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #25
care to tell us WHY we are still there? Skittles Jul 2013 #32
To tick you off Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #44
see my previous post referring to five year olds Skittles Jul 2013 #45
Wow, about fucking time. Good news! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #17
Quit considering, get us out! morningfog Jul 2013 #19
yesterday! bigtree Jul 2013 #20
Go ahead. Accuse him of "dithering". It will carry with it some element of symmetry Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #27
"Obama Considering" tblue Jul 2013 #23
Right after Gitmo is shut down. n/t reusrename Jul 2013 #33
yeah, right? burnodo Jul 2013 #34
Yay! Something I can be happy about. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #28
better late than later. cali Jul 2013 #36
seriously? You think Obama 'condisering' something means anything at all? bowens43 Jul 2013 #37
as in his withdrawal from Iraq bigtree Jul 2013 #38
Meanwhile, the American Taliban take over this country. kentuck Jul 2013 #39
Kick Scurrilous Jul 2013 #46
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