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7. that seems unrealistic
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jul 2013

How long do you believe our men and women in uniform should be expected to serve as the buffer between those who identify themselves as Taliban and the rest of the Afghan people?

I've never never been convinced that our forces, collectively, do more good than harm in their defense of Kabul. We began the Obama term with an unprecedented escalation of forces far above Bush's deployment with the aim of pushing the Taliban out of regions like Kandahar. That mission was an abject failure; both on the stated aims to make that mission a model for the rest of the deployment; and, in the blowback which claimed thousands of Afghan lives and hundreds of American lives - far above the Bush total of casualties.

The result of all of that was a retreat to defend Kabul (like in Iraq in the wan of the Bush occupation when he pulled back to encircle Baghdad) and a flailing out with airstrikes and drone attacks. The defeat of al-Qaeda, which was at the center of the Obama strategy, is now a matter of semantics as he scrambles to get out without it looking like the sad rout that it inevitably has become.

We can't keep telling ourselves that we can keep Afghans from killing each other with this exhaustive occupation of force; the price has proven too high; the results and successes, using our own logic for remaining, have been few and far between; and our forces have always been counterproductive there; both in their activity and their presence.

The U.S.-led NATO operation should have been completely shut down, yesterday.

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Just like it happened when the Russians left, I fear for the girls and women. Beacool Jul 2013 #1
What do you want us to do? Pirate Smile Jul 2013 #2
Leave a presence to impede the Taliban from taking over the country. Beacool Jul 2013 #40
they will revert to what they've done for past 3000 years nt msongs Jul 2013 #3
Is it right to allow that? nt bluestate10 Jul 2013 #4
No, but where's the money to not allow that? Amonester Jul 2013 #5
Is it our place to stop it? We haven't stopped the genocide in the Congo cali Jul 2013 #35
What exactly are you trying to say with this post? Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #29
That's not exactly so. Beacool Jul 2013 #41
that seems unrealistic bigtree Jul 2013 #7
Of course we're number one and need to show that we can xtraxritical Jul 2013 #24
You have asked the only important question Recursion Jul 2013 #31
I don't know the answer to your valid points, Beacool Jul 2013 #42
I dunno bigtree Jul 2013 #47
You could say the same thing about Texas. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #21
I fear more for the wedding parties and sleeping children that the bombs have "been there" for. Alamuti Lotus Jul 2013 #30
I don't disagree. Beacool Jul 2013 #43
Does anyone else see the connection to Edward Snowden ? kentuck Jul 2013 #6
No. phleshdef Jul 2013 #8
The terrorists now have the word... kentuck Jul 2013 #13
Don't you see one with Rick Perry? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #22
Sounds like their work is done. Cha Jul 2013 #9
our troops have done all that our men and women in uniform should be expected to in Afghanistan bigtree Jul 2013 #12
Perzactly! Cha Jul 2013 #14
oh hell yes and please AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #10
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #11
Call it Operation Fuckit NightWatcher Jul 2013 #15
call it Operation Limits bigtree Jul 2013 #18
Of course Vietnam taught us none of those things. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #26
Wag the dog Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #16
DU AtomicKitten Jul 2013 #25
care to tell us WHY we are still there? Skittles Jul 2013 #32
To tick you off Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #44
see my previous post referring to five year olds Skittles Jul 2013 #45
Wow, about fucking time. Good news! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #17
Quit considering, get us out! morningfog Jul 2013 #19
yesterday! bigtree Jul 2013 #20
Go ahead. Accuse him of "dithering". It will carry with it some element of symmetry Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #27
"Obama Considering" tblue Jul 2013 #23
Right after Gitmo is shut down. n/t reusrename Jul 2013 #33
yeah, right? burnodo Jul 2013 #34
Yay! Something I can be happy about. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #28
better late than later. cali Jul 2013 #36
seriously? You think Obama 'condisering' something means anything at all? bowens43 Jul 2013 #37
as in his withdrawal from Iraq bigtree Jul 2013 #38
Meanwhile, the American Taliban take over this country. kentuck Jul 2013 #39
Kick Scurrilous Jul 2013 #46
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