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189. What will GZ do that TM will never do again

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Trayvon Martin HAD JUST TURNED 17 and was STILL A MINOR! When he was fighting zim-zim the giggling [View all] Ecumenist Jul 2013 OP

You are finally John2 Jul 2013 #1

Exactly right alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #30

Not only that laundry_queen Jul 2013 #39

n/t JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #2

as a female I was taught the same thing TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #18

And you made another John2 Jul 2013 #25

Yes. If Martin had been a 17 y.o. female... anneboleyn Jul 2013 #92

Amen, AnneBoleyn, AMEN! Ecumenist Jul 2013 #110

TorchTheWitch - Someone down thread JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #174

but he's black and wore a hoodie in a white neighborhood at dusk. That negates every concept Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #3

You forgot this In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #4

Never include it. It should be self-explanatory the tenor of my comment. Thanks thought. :) Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #6

How anyone can support Zimmerman is beyond me. He is a guilty as the sun is hot. In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #17

I hope JUSTICE will wipe that smirk off his face ... napkinz Jul 2013 #5

To see that _____ smirking and laughing in court for a murder is an affront to life itself. freshwest Jul 2013 #75

Oh my God !!! Wish I hadn't seen that. Disgusting ! lumpy Jul 2013 #155

Oh my God !!! Wish I hadn't seen that. Disgusting ! yeoman6987 Jul 2013 #178

The jury sees that smug crap too. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #160

This is what bugs me Prism Jul 2013 #7

Don't engage them and keep running away? Pelican Jul 2013 #12

Trayvon might have felt TRAPPED. And don't forget; Z was the one supposed to be in fear. Why didn't WinkyDink Jul 2013 #14

He was running away Sanity Claws Jul 2013 #16

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #24

wtf?? Sheldon Cooper Jul 2013 #26

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #27

Ya cause TM can outrun bullets. Threedifferentones Jul 2013 #31

Trayvon isnt on trial. He is not obliged to "run away". He may have tried to hide and rhett o rick Jul 2013 #35

Zimmerman caught up to him TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #41

Wow,thanks. Incitatus Jul 2013 #106

The witnesses didn't see it, they heard it TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #157

Good info- thanks lumpy Jul 2013 #197

He tried that, and the creep kept following him. nt tblue37 Jul 2013 #149

This is exactly I am personally watching this case so closely. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #13

^^^ Exactly. Me too. It astonishes and horrifies me to think GZ might get off entirely. nt. MH1 Jul 2013 #32

This is why a lot of the pro gun crowd is supporting Zimmerman. Just Saying Jul 2013 #154

Thank the GOP's step-brother ALEC rustydog Jul 2013 #38

this has been my point, and it's only because he is black that people don't view it as you say JI7 Jul 2013 #8

ABSO-FLIPPING-LUTELY! J17! there's more than a little racist undertone here. Ecumenist Jul 2013 #221

Thank you for saying this!!! bravenak Jul 2013 #9

I have been saying this for sometime exboyfil Jul 2013 #10

Wayne Williams oldest victim was 27. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #46

Yes serial killers who kill men target teens and young adults anneboleyn Jul 2013 #98

I agree 100%, and if there were more %, I'd add it, too. The minutiae of the "Z defenses" madden. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #11

Well said. I totally agree. nt DLevine Jul 2013 #15

Nice rant, my friend. 99Forever Jul 2013 #19

If he gets off, John2 Jul 2013 #20

I agree absolutely... but that may not be the best strategy to bring out at the trial. (IANAL) nenagh Jul 2013 #21

very glad for this referral, thanks! Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #36

They are biased, but it is peaceful to read.. nenagh Jul 2013 #43

they are biased in the same way I am biased. the facts point in one direction. Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #44

here is the link. thank you, it is good reading magical thyme Jul 2013 #54

Thank you magical thyme, I haven't grasped links unfortunately.... nenagh Jul 2013 #59

links are by copy and paste magical thyme Jul 2013 #62

Thanks for the help... I'll try it... nenagh Jul 2013 #69

Zimmerman was acting on the number one gun nut fantasy. onehandle Jul 2013 #22

What a great post brush Jul 2013 #23

Wish I could rec this 100 times... alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #28

Thank you. graham4anything Jul 2013 #29

K&R gollygee Jul 2013 #33

rec and kick Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #34

"Trayvon would be alive if he wasn't so uppity" Gormy Cuss Jul 2013 #37

Thank God you were there! When do you testify? flvegan Jul 2013 #40

Well, Hello to you too. That BOY was a child and he was MURDERED by a nut who was determined Ecumenist Jul 2013 #48

Has nothing to do with what I believe. flvegan Jul 2013 #114

Here's the difference between you and me. I know and understand a well regarded legal point Ecumenist Jul 2013 #150

No you don't. You know emotion and opinion, and nothing about "well regarded legal point(s)" flvegan Jul 2013 #156

First of all, IF you cann read AND comprehend, check out this FULL thread and you will see Ecumenist Jul 2013 #184

My awe? Really? flvegan Jul 2013 #187

Word Salad, eh? Now I get it.. Facts burn your pea brain in the same way that holy water burns the Ecumenist Jul 2013 #200

Good post.. Too bad some people can't comprehend what the hell they read . Some people lumpy Jul 2013 #201

Most people here use common sense to make the right decisions. Common sense sometimes lumpy Jul 2013 #198

The cops, DA, judge and jury weren't there either. Does that mean that crimes like murder are Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #161

If I'm a fool, you're an idiot. flvegan Jul 2013 #182

Your words: " Thank God you were there! When do you testify?" Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #185

AMEN, Najing, Amen. Alot of these types are pretending to be neutral but are SIMPLY veiled Ecumenist Jul 2013 #186

Actually, I'm not new here. I just don't have access to the email for my old account and I Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #190

Well, glad to have you here. However long or short it might have been. Ecumenist Jul 2013 #209

LOL! flvegan Jul 2013 #191

Vegetables aren't living things? Carrot constitutes murder Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #193

What was for dinner? flvegan Jul 2013 #194

First of all, it's nunya but since you're so interested in my in my wellbeing, (and you're such a Ecumenist Jul 2013 #212

Wow, so now, being a Vegan, WHICH ntw, most Hindus are somehow were able to and continue to Ecumenist Jul 2013 #199

Hahahahahahahahahahaha ..... lumpy Jul 2013 #203

At least witnesses and experts aren't spouting bullshit opinion flvegan Jul 2013 #188

In testimony, all "witnesses" and "experts" are spouting bullshit opinion and waxing stupid Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #192

Bigger LOL flvegan Jul 2013 #195

English may not be my first language, jackass, but I am an American citizen Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #218

Najing, this "person" insists that they have no dog in this fight and are COMPLETELY altruistic Ecumenist Jul 2013 #202

EXACTLY. Zoeisright Jul 2013 #42

kick napkinz Jul 2013 #45

His age is not in dispute. His actions are. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #47

As I told your buddy friend pal,FLVEGAN, I was using the term that was used when Tray was describing Ecumenist Jul 2013 #49

I'm well aware that Trayvon Martin used that word. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #51

Look, if the title fits because I cannot see why your ilk seem to think that he is responsible Ecumenist Jul 2013 #64

"if the title fits" "that bitch" flvegan Jul 2013 #130

well-said. Vattel Jul 2013 #96

and OH YEAH, as his AGE was not in dispute, his ACTIONS WERE JUSTIFIED! He was a CHILD who was Ecumenist Jul 2013 #50

No, Trayvon Martin is not on trial... NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #53

REALLY? TRAYVON RAN THE HELL AWAY- as evidenced by zimmy saying, "He's running. These FUCKING Ecumenist Jul 2013 #58

Seriously? People like me think that Martin was "uppity"? NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #63

EVIDENTLY YOU DO, WHAT ELSE EXPLAINS YOU DETERMINATION TO MAKE THIS BABY Ecumenist Jul 2013 #70

It is troubling that Zimmerman claims in the initial police questioning (on tape) that he was lumpy Jul 2013 #204

Amen. Lumpy but there are those who do not want to admit that he has lied his ass off Ecumenist Jul 2013 #205

I'd be keen to hear where in the expert testimony re: Zimmerman's injuries brett_jv Jul 2013 #163

clearly you know next to nothing about this case TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #173

I wish you were on the prosecution team yardwork Jul 2013 #176

how does one do that? TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #179

The county probably has a web page yardwork Jul 2013 #180

I like the conclusions that individuals come up with; people who have taken the time and have lumpy Jul 2013 #206

A 17 year old is now a "baby"? Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #74

Actually, MOST people like me woould consider the 17year a "Baby" after all, what the hell has he do Ecumenist Jul 2013 #78

Easy there Ecumenist... Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #84

Sure you have and let me guess, you can't be racist because you have "black friends"..right?Don't Ecumenist Jul 2013 #86

Nope, didn't claim to have Black friends, just that I've talked to Black people. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #87

The only people I'm irritating are racists, covert and overt. Have a NICE life Ecumenist Jul 2013 #107

Boyteens are closer to being Babys than being adults. I outta know, 3 boys who are now 40 plus. lumpy Jul 2013 #210

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #226

What if he had been a teen girl? anneboleyn Jul 2013 #100

I don't understand the question. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #113

There is a major difference between a 30 year old anneboleyn Jul 2013 #143

What is the point, baby ? lumpy Jul 2013 #208

I don't believe Zimmerman's account at all. I believe Martin bloodied Zimmerman's lumpy Jul 2013 #158

Yup, that's what we teach our kids: if someone is creepy, confront them and swing on them Azathoth Jul 2013 #52

CAN YOU READ??!! HE DID RUN THE FUCK AWAY AND FOR THE LAST TIME, Zimmy is recorded Ecumenist Jul 2013 #61

So what happened? Zimmerman suddenly turned into the freakin Flash? Azathoth Jul 2013 #66

NOPE...simply this, ZIMMY KNEW THE NEIGHBOURHOOD....THIS AIN'T ROCKET SCIENCE. He was his own self Ecumenist Jul 2013 #71

Not too damn far under the surface when people seek anything to try Trayvon for murder. freshwest Jul 2013 #83

Trayvon last played football at age 13, JimDandy Jul 2013 #108

"Zimmerman was a fit fighting machine" Azathoth Jul 2013 #116

Evidently, you don't understand what MY use of Sergeant Porkchop means- It DOES NOT Ecumenist Jul 2013 #136

LOL the guy is 5'7" and he weighed over 200lbs the night of the shooting Azathoth Jul 2013 #139

That image of JimDandy Jul 2013 #140

Actually, the "porkchop" image comes from the fact that he was clinically obese Azathoth Jul 2013 #142

Oh yeah? I have been using this term SERGEANT PORKCHOP ever since I moved in with my husband Ecumenist Jul 2013 #145

lol, man you just want to fight about everything Azathoth Jul 2013 #147

Yeah, you're a dream come true too. BTW, I'm Female.... Ecumenist Jul 2013 #224

In the first pics we saw of Zimmermann, he was obese. In the pics we tblue37 Jul 2013 #151

Dude hardly looks like a pork chop in the pics of his first court appearance ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #165

Those pics are from the night of the shooting. At THAT time he was buff. tblue37 Jul 2013 #166

then, he, and you apparently, have been taught wrong hfojvt Jul 2013 #55

If you'll remeber, HE DID FUCKING RUN!! Remember what zimmy said, "HE'S RUNNING, THESE FUCKING Ecumenist Jul 2013 #56

Yeah, we know, Z chased down a 17 year old football player with a 60 second head start Azathoth Jul 2013 #60

right, then how come zimmy was running after him? Are you actually trying to tell me that I am Ecumenist Jul 2013 #65

Say wha? Azathoth Jul 2013 #68

Oh, so now he "ALLOWED" Zimmerman to catch up when in the first FUCKING place, He should have Ecumenist Jul 2013 #73

Yes, "allowed" Azathoth Jul 2013 #82

BULLSHIT... He was walking back to the house where he was BABYSITTING a younger child Ecumenist Jul 2013 #85

OK, so he didn't run to safety Azathoth Jul 2013 #91

Oh so you got from YAHOO ANSWERS, REALLY? Yeah, that's COMPLETELY Ecumenist Jul 2013 #97

lol, you're not even attempting to respond to posts Azathoth Jul 2013 #103

Zimmerman says that Martin came up to me and asked him if he had a problem. Vattel Jul 2013 #126

Here's the reason that I DO NOT BELIEVE what zimmy has said because he's a proven Ecumenist Jul 2013 #133

And don't forget, the whole time he is being smothered by tblue37 Jul 2013 #153

We have no evidence that Martin didn't run. Maybe Zimmerman circled around and trapped him. yardwork Jul 2013 #89

Actually, we have evidence that he *did* run Azathoth Jul 2013 #93

So Zimmerman is a bad liar and that means he's credible? yardwork Jul 2013 #95

Laughing is a poor substitute for thinking Azathoth Jul 2013 #101

Actually, He DID lie about the money and was CAUGHT giving juvenile cryptic info Ecumenist Jul 2013 #111

Zimmy was on the phone with somebody right after he murdered Martin. yardwork Jul 2013 #112

Great story ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #167

Yep, Yardwork, that's it in a nutshell. Frankly, my own opinion about zimmy is that being a bad Ecumenist Jul 2013 #102

That's it. yardwork Jul 2013 #117

Zimmerman was on the phone when he got out of his car and followed Trayvon hfojvt Jul 2013 #67

ZIMMY WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBOURHOOD!! Trayvon was visiting. PERIOD. Ecumenist Jul 2013 #72

There is no short cut from where Zimmerman was parked that would Vattel Jul 2013 #105

FIRST OFF ALL, do you live there? Cuz I wasn't aware that you knew exactly where zimmy Ecumenist Jul 2013 #109

So you are saying that the location of Zimmerman's car at the time of the killing is in doubt? Vattel Jul 2013 #122

and based on was a PROVEN liar has said, you knew purport to know where EVERYTHING happened Ecumenist Jul 2013 #127

Um, the location of the killing, Zimmerman's car, and Martin's father's house is Vattel Jul 2013 #131

I heard that Trayvon didn't want to lead the creepy ass cracker back to... Little Star Jul 2013 #77

AMEN!!! LIttle Star but "SOME FOLKS" REFUSE to see what the facts are if they don't jibe with their Ecumenist Jul 2013 #79

Simple explanation for ALL this ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #168

Indeed. You have made your viewpoint VERY clear. Trayvon's death was his own fault. uppityperson Jul 2013 #80

Martin did not have an obligation to run anywhere. He was in his father's neighborhood at 7 pm. yardwork Jul 2013 #88

Yard, that's exactly what I was saying. zimmy was familiar with the neighbourhood but Trayvon Ecumenist Jul 2013 #118

He probably just chose to HIDE instead of run ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #169

Stop with the caps, already, we get that you're angry about Trayvon's murder tavalon Jul 2013 #172

Absolutely Tavalon. If you read the entire thread, you'll see that there were two DU'ers Ecumenist Jul 2013 #181

Yeah, there is going to be hell to pay if that asshole gets off tavalon Jul 2013 #219

WOw, think so? I know that the vast majority of people I know are just sick to think that he Ecumenist Jul 2013 #220

I don't know about full on riot but tavalon Jul 2013 #222

Oh yeah, I have to agree with you there. I'm still on the West Coast in the North State-- Ecumenist Jul 2013 #223

Honestly, that's what I think, too tavalon Jul 2013 #225

How does one outrun a bullet? tavalon Jul 2013 #171

Trayvon was a tall slender if not skinny teen age kid. There is a world of difference between lumpy Jul 2013 #213

Yes.... Ninga Jul 2013 #57

I stopped reading at "CRACKAS included" Skip Intro Jul 2013 #76

Then apparently, the TRIAL AND TESTIMONY IS HYPOCRITICAL RACIST BULLSHIT because that was Ecumenist Jul 2013 #81

So one thing I've never understood about the Martin shooting... Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #90

He was a recently 17 YEAR OLD BABY, a boy who doesn't think like you , Me or other adults Ecumenist Jul 2013 #94

Maybe he didn't have time. Auntie Bush Jul 2013 #99

He had time to call Rachel Jenteal. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #115

He was already on the phone with his friend when Zimmerman approached him and murdered him. yardwork Jul 2013 #119

Martin had time to describe the situation to Jenteal. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #123

Well, sure ... brett_jv Jul 2013 #170

Zimmerman would have killed him anyway yardwork Jul 2013 #175

Well for one reason or another he didn't call 911. Why do YOU think he didn't call 911? lumpy Jul 2013 #214

WOW REALLY? Pat attention, HE WAS ON THE PHONE HER whe zimmy showed up... Ecumenist Jul 2013 #121

He didn't call Rachael, he had been on the line with her for a long time when the incident happened. Auntie Bush Jul 2013 #144

Maybe he figured there might be another bigot on the switchboard, thus a Hoyt Jul 2013 #104

Blacks make up 30% of Sanford's population. Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #120

AND??!! So you do realise that many places in the deep south have higher numbers of blacks Ecumenist Jul 2013 #124

You have a lot to learm abput race relations . . . . assuming ypu really give a dang. Hoyt Jul 2013 #138

And very few of them live in that condo community yardwork Jul 2013 #177

Neighborhood watch Conium Jul 2013 #125

If he did, why would he have called 911? Llewlladdwr Jul 2013 #128

He was setting up jis SYG defense. The same thing happened in Florida with another murderer Ecumenist Jul 2013 #137

He didn't call 911. He called a non-emergency number he had called many times before yardwork Jul 2013 #183

Most likely he wanted to show the police that he was on the job ; his prime lumpy Jul 2013 #215

He wasn't required to carry a gun according to his terms of employment. lumpy Jul 2013 #216

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Thank you for this rant! Just Saying Jul 2013 #132

Thank you, Just Saying Its just plain old common sense.... and a belated yet hearty welcome to DU Ecumenist Jul 2013 #134

Thanks Just Saying Jul 2013 #159

I believe in gun rights but you don't get to stalk then chase down and confront... Jasana Jul 2013 #135

"But I would have outrun Ted Bundy" anneboleyn Jul 2013 #141

Excellent. One of the very BEST posts ever on this tblue37 Jul 2013 #146

Thank you! I had never heard this explained the way you have. It makes complete sence. Maraya1969 Jul 2013 #148

Excellent...but Trayvon wasn't given the chance to fight. Z came at him, gun already out, ecstatic Jul 2013 #152

Thank you!!! gopiscrap Jul 2013 #162

I'm not completely convinced that Trayvon laid a hand on him... ReRe Jul 2013 #164

What will GZ do that TM will never do again Pennycat Jul 2013 #189

Hi, Pennycat you are absolutely right. a few other things Trayvon will never do again: Ecumenist Jul 2013 #207

And Zimmerman has no regrets or remorse; claims he would do it again (Hannity TV program) lumpy Jul 2013 #217

And the faux snooze getting injected into the defense. Sean Pannitee. Good gawd. lonestarnot Jul 2013 #196

That is incredibly insightful. I have told my children never let anyone take you to a secondary liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #211