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3. It isn't hairsplitting, it's propaganda at its most nefarious.

Reply to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:13 AM

Jul 2013

They absolutely do have direct access. They just don't contract with the providers for it. There are contractors that provide the direct access.

http://www.subsentio.com/service-providers/electronic-surveillance-standards/

That way the telecoms still enjoy their not-so-plausible deniability.

In the industry it's referred to as "safe harbor" or "lawful compliance."

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Snowden Mentioned �Direct Access� In Interview With The Guardian [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

More exercises in hairsplitting -- what a waste of time. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #1

You didn't even have to "waste" time posting that, but you did. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #2

Over BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #19

It isn't hairsplitting, it's propaganda at its most nefarious. reusrename Jul 2013 #3

Yeah, TPM is evil for quoting Greenwald and Snowden. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #7

Smart! Snowden and Greenwald are "nefarious". rofl Cha Jul 2013 #25

This corroborates Snowden's claim. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #4

Thanks for this info Hydra Jul 2013 #12

how is it that no one has replied to your post above? grasswire Jul 2013 #13

It's becoming increasingly clear that Snowden's claims of "direct access" were TOTAL BULLSHIT Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #5

Total Lie BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #20

One thing never mentioned is what Snowden has done to "legitimate" analysts in the field VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #6

They're basically robosigners. reusrename Jul 2013 #8

You say this based on what exactly? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #16

No, I don't know anything about what has rained down on them. reusrename Jul 2013 #17

Thank You BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #22

You are very welcome. Try and pass this all along to interested folks. The media won't do it. reusrename Jul 2013 #23

Sock puppet BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #24

It's more like signing an affidavit. That's what the banksters needed for the mortgage theft. reusrename Jul 2013 #27

Checks and Balance BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #28

I totally agree with you about this. reusrename Jul 2013 #29

So your hero Snowden was nothing more than a "robosigner" similar to those used by mortgage co's VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #31

So what kind of hell is raining down on these guys? reusrename Jul 2013 #33

So you don't think that now these guys jobs are effected? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #34

I've tried to figure out what you mean about their jobs being affected, but I can't. reusrename Jul 2013 #35

Sure you can....use your imagination! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #36

! reusrename Jul 2013 #38

So how the hell do you know that all this Snowden guy was just a Robosigner VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #30

I know all this because I have been following this story closely. reusrename Jul 2013 #32

What is this? dkf Jul 2013 #9

The original story that WaPo backtracked on? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #10

It's dated 7/6 and is about a parallel program to PRISM that goes straight to fiber optic cables. dkf Jul 2013 #15

Kick! n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #11

kicking your own thread? grasswire Jul 2013 #14

Kicking your own thread is ugly? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #18

Says you? It must be beautiful thing, then. Cha Jul 2013 #26

She always kicks her own threads. Hates it when they sink. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #40

K & R SunSeeker Jul 2013 #21

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #37

he's a libertarian douche blathering out of his ass at this point... dionysus Jul 2013 #39

LOL, yet other countries are glad to have the information. And the ACLU. I call it a success!! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #41