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OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
4. This corroborates Snowden's claim.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:14 AM
Jul 2013

From March, 2008.

http://www.whistleblower.org/program-areas/homeland-security-a-human-rights/surveillance/fisababak-pasdar

For civil liberties advocates, the first week of March 2008 wasn’t shaping up very well. For months, the House of Representatives had
been wrangling to work out a compromise bill for a pressing issue – anti-terrorist spying legislation. That political hot-button
guaranteed a tremendous amount of media coverage, as the bill represents Congress’ response to the “domestic spying” scandal
plastered on the front pages of newspapers for years – proof that the Bush administration had violated the privacy rights of American
citizens by circumventing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) requirements to secure judicial warrants to target monitor
citizen’s communications.

~snip~

That’s when GAP helped our client, Babak Pasdar, educate our representatives on the full scope of what information certain telecoms
provided to the Bush administration. In a word – everything. Pasdar’s disclosures shocked Congress, and delayed the vote.

The “Quantico Circuit”

Pasdar, a experienced computer expert, was hired as a contractor to do security work for a major telecommunications company. In
doing so, he discovered a mysterious “Quantico Circuit” at the company’s facility (media sources identified the telecom as Verizon).
The circuit, linked to Quantico, VA, provided the federal government unfettered access to all of that company’s customer mobile phone
communications – all calls, emails, text messages, internet use, videos, billings, and even customer locations. However, the line was
configured so no record of what was being tapped by the government existed.


Pasdar stated that logs should be kept of what was recorded, but he was quickly moved off the project. When the telecommunications
immunity vote seemed imminent, he knew he had to expose his finding to the country before judgment was passed. How could any
immunity be reasonable, or just, if the full violations were not known? Pasdar sought help from GAP.


http://www.themediaconsortium.com/reporting/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/affidavit-bp-final.pdf

My name is Babak Pasdar, President and CEO of Bat Blue Corporation. I have given this affidavit to
Thomas Devine, who has identified himself as the legal director of the Government Accountability
Project, without any threats, inducements or coercion.

I have been a technologist in the computer and computer security industry for the past nineteen years
and am a "Certified Ethical Hacker" (E-Commerce Consultants International Council.) I have worked
with many enterprise organizations, telecommunications carriers, as well as small and medium sized
organizations in consulting, designing, implementing, troubleshooting, and managing security systems.
This statement is to make a record ofmy concerns about the privacy implications for our society from
what I personally witnessed at a major telecommunications carrier, as summarized below.

~snip~

Our plan that evening was to migrate a set of users to the new firewall, and then determine if and how it
impacted access and functionality. We started testing and, all-in-all, the small users test migration went
very well. The test went so well that we then set out to migrate over 300 sites that were carrier owned
or affiliate locations. These 300 or so sites were mostly sales offices. We migrated the locations by
redirecting their traffic to the new firewalls. All was going extremely well. As the night went on you
could feel the relief taking over the anxiousness everyone had felt earlier.

At one point I overheard C1 and C2 talking about skipping a location. Not wanting to do a shoddy job
I stopped and said "we should migrate all sites."

C1 told me this site is different.

I asked, "Who is it? Carrier owned or affiliate?"

C1 said, "This is the 'Quantico Circuit.'''

I remember that he paused and looked at me as did C2. I inquired, "Quantico, Virginia? Is this a store
location?"

C1 responded, "No."

"Is it what I think it is?", I asked.

C1 did not reply but just smiled. It was a very telling smile and I knew we were discussing something
unusual.


"What kind of circuit is it?", I asked.

"A DS-3," replied C1. (A DS-3 is a 45 mega bit per second circuit that supports data and voice
communications.)

C1 said that this circuit should not have any access control. He actually said it should not be
firewalled.


I suggested to migrate it and implement an "Any-Any" rule. ("Any-Any" is a nickname for a
completely open policy that does not enforce any restrictions.) That meant we could log any activity
making a record ofthe source, destination and type of communication. It would have also allowed
easy implementation of access controls at a future date. "Everything at the least SHOULD be logged," I
emphasized.

C1 said, "I don't think that is what they want."

"Who?", I asked, and again C1 and C2 did not respond
.

C2 by this point had stepped back and his body language showed that he was very uncomfortable
discussing this matter.

"Come on guys, let's just do it and ask for forgiveness later. You know its the right thing." I suggested.

C1 and C2 did not want to comply. Instead they got on the phone with DS who asked me to stop what I
was doing and move on. To my surprise, he then drove the one hour or so to the data center.

The tentative, uncertain DS I had known was transformed into a man wagging his finger in my face and
telling me to "forget about the circuit" and "move on" with the migration, and ifI couldn't do that then
he would get someone who would.

I politely and in a low-key manner informed DS that my intention was to deliver security in line with
industry-acceptable use scenarios, and although I am not intimately familiar with their security policy,
it was reasonable to think that having a third party with completely open access to their network core
was against organizational policy.


DS did not want to hear any of it and re-doubled his emphatic message to move on. This was serious
stuff. He had let me know in no uncertain terms that I was treading above my pay grade.

When DS left, I asked C1 again, "Is this what I think it is?"

"What do you think?", he replied again, smiling.


I shifted the focus. "Forgetting about who it is, don't you think it is unusual for some third party to have
completely open access to your systems like this? You guys are even firewalling your internal offices,
and they are part of your own company!"


C1 said, "Dude, that's what they want."

I didn't bother asking who "they" were this time. "They" now had a surrogate face - DS. That told me
that "they" went all the way to the top, which was why the once uncertain DS could now be so sure and
emphatic.

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More exercises in hairsplitting -- what a waste of time. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #1
You didn't even have to "waste" time posting that, but you did. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #2
Over BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #19
It isn't hairsplitting, it's propaganda at its most nefarious. reusrename Jul 2013 #3
Yeah, TPM is evil for quoting Greenwald and Snowden. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #7
Smart! Snowden and Greenwald are "nefarious". rofl Cha Jul 2013 #25
This corroborates Snowden's claim. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #4
Thanks for this info Hydra Jul 2013 #12
how is it that no one has replied to your post above? grasswire Jul 2013 #13
It's becoming increasingly clear that Snowden's claims of "direct access" were TOTAL BULLSHIT Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #5
Total Lie BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #20
One thing never mentioned is what Snowden has done to "legitimate" analysts in the field VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #6
They're basically robosigners. reusrename Jul 2013 #8
You say this based on what exactly? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #16
No, I don't know anything about what has rained down on them. reusrename Jul 2013 #17
Thank You BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #22
You are very welcome. Try and pass this all along to interested folks. The media won't do it. reusrename Jul 2013 #23
Sock puppet BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #24
It's more like signing an affidavit. That's what the banksters needed for the mortgage theft. reusrename Jul 2013 #27
Checks and Balance BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #28
I totally agree with you about this. reusrename Jul 2013 #29
So your hero Snowden was nothing more than a "robosigner" similar to those used by mortgage co's VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #31
So what kind of hell is raining down on these guys? reusrename Jul 2013 #33
So you don't think that now these guys jobs are effected? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #34
I've tried to figure out what you mean about their jobs being affected, but I can't. reusrename Jul 2013 #35
Sure you can....use your imagination! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #36
! reusrename Jul 2013 #38
So how the hell do you know that all this Snowden guy was just a Robosigner VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #30
I know all this because I have been following this story closely. reusrename Jul 2013 #32
What is this? dkf Jul 2013 #9
The original story that WaPo backtracked on? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #10
It's dated 7/6 and is about a parallel program to PRISM that goes straight to fiber optic cables. dkf Jul 2013 #15
Kick! n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #11
kicking your own thread? grasswire Jul 2013 #14
Kicking your own thread is ugly? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #18
Says you? It must be beautiful thing, then. Cha Jul 2013 #26
She always kicks her own threads. Hates it when they sink. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #40
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2013 #21
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #37
he's a libertarian douche blathering out of his ass at this point... dionysus Jul 2013 #39
LOL, yet other countries are glad to have the information. And the ACLU. I call it a success!! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #41
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