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In reply to the discussion: The Constitution specifically allows for Congressional secrecy and military contractors [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)6. Ah, the "Letters of Marque"
That was Ron Paul's preferred route to declaring war.
Good time to repost this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/100210182
Have I mentioned Ron Paul isn't anti-war?
Ron Paul is a racist, anti-government demagogue. Everything he does benefits the GOP and the rich.
One person voted against the original Afghanistan AUMF
Barbara Lee
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll342.xml
Ron Paul voted yes.
In 2007, the House voted 218 to 212 to Set Date for Iraq Pullout
House, 218 to 212, Votes to Set Date for Iraq Pullout
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/24/washington/24cong.html
Ron Paul voted no.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll186.xml
In 2007, Ron Paul introduced the Marque and Reprisal Act of 2007
Marque and Reprisal Act of 2007 - Authorizes and requests the President to issue letters of marque and reprisal to commission privately armed and equipped persons and entities to seize outside of the United States the person and property of Osama bin Laden, of any al Qaeda co-conspirator, and any conspirator with Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda who are responsible for the air piratical aggressions against the United States on September 11, 2001, and for any planned similar acts or acts of war against the United States in the future.
States that no letter of marque and reprisal shall be issued without the posting of a security bond in such amount as the President determines sufficient to ensure the letter's execution.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-110hr3216ih/pdf/BILLS-110hr3216ih.pdf
States that no letter of marque and reprisal shall be issued without the posting of a security bond in such amount as the President determines sufficient to ensure the letter's execution.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-110hr3216ih/pdf/BILLS-110hr3216ih.pdf
Of course when he introduced it in 2001, it was "for the capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator"
September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001
<...>
(b) The President of the United States is authorized to place a money bounty, drawn in his discretion from the $40,000,000,000 appropriated on September 14, 2001, in the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Recovery from and Response to Terrorists Attacks on the United States or from private sources, for the capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001, under the authority of any letter of marque or reprisal issued under this Act.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr3076ih/pdf/BILLS-107hr3076ih.pdf
(b) The President of the United States is authorized to place a money bounty, drawn in his discretion from the $40,000,000,000 appropriated on September 14, 2001, in the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Recovery from and Response to Terrorists Attacks on the United States or from private sources, for the capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001, under the authority of any letter of marque or reprisal issued under this Act.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr3076ih/pdf/BILLS-107hr3076ih.pdf
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The Constitution specifically allows for Congressional secrecy and military contractors [View all]
Recursion
Jul 2013
OP
Somehow, I doubt the Founders anticipated our modern ways in quite the detail you are implying. nt
Romulus Quirinus
Jul 2013
#2
I doubt they anticipated assault rifles in quite the detail 2nd amendment fans imply. n/t
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#8
I doubt they anticipated private contractors like Booz Allen in quite the same way either
think
Jul 2013
#29
Thank you for replying. I'm sorry if I've been annoying & repetitive on this issue
think
Jul 2013
#55
Thanks. I guess we will just have to take the govt's word that they are not violating the spirit
think
Jul 2013
#14
And now important interpretations are classified. That is not a precedent I'm fond of
think
Jul 2013
#21
I agree with your views and would like to subscribe to your news letter. nt
Romulus Quirinus
Jul 2013
#49
I seem to remember he considers it a "vast untapped resource" or some crap like that
Recursion
Jul 2013
#18
So where is the open debate in congress that would enable one fifth can keep the goings of the
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#9
That is all well and good if they have declared the enemy to be the public at large
nolabels
Jul 2013
#16
I still haven't found a provision for secret interpretation of the law in the Constititution....
think
Jul 2013
#31
No you aren't, you are actually offering examples from the past to excuse present problems
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#40
Most of them were alive and in Congress when Washington refused to make trade negotiations public
Recursion
Jul 2013
#35
So you agree that when my Senators say secrets are being kept from them that is not
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#33
I interpret this as even if it is secret, it can be entered on the Journal with 20% ...
kentuck
Jul 2013
#34
There is indeed a problem and it revolves around the private contractor NSA relationship
think
Jul 2013
#45
Yes, and the Constitution specifically allows us to throw their asses out if they do so.
bemildred
Jul 2013
#47