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reusrename

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17. No, I don't know anything about what has rained down on them.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 02:13 AM
Jul 2013

As for the robosigning, it's all there in the information that has been released. The analysts simply fill out a form or template and they have immediate access to the contents of emails and phone calls.

The template or form drives all of the computer modules that compile all the information needed for requesting a warrant from the FISA court. This ensures that the requirements for the warrant are complied with.

Then, sometime during the following 72 hours, the warrant request is sent to the FISA court. It is automatically approved since all the "legal" requirements have been met when the analyst completes the form or template that starts the process. I imagine thousands of communications can be requested by a single warrant.

Any analyst is authorized to obtain the content of any voice or email record, on his own authority, if he has been verbally authorized to do so by either the Attorney General or the Director of National Intelligence.

It's all covered in the FISA law itself, and then made crystal clear by the document releases that Snowden made. The laws were already known, Snowden explains the policy used to implement the law, which I never heard anything about before his disclosures.

If you are familiar with how robosigners were used to flout legal hurdles in the home repossession scandals, then you have to understand that this system of having the analysts become robosigners is done for exactly the same purpose. The only difference being that in the NSA spying case the robosigning has been made the official policy, which I think makes it legal, even though it violates the spirit of the law.

The policy could be ruled illegal by the Supreme Court, but no one has been able to argue the case there because all Americans lack legal standing.

One of the documents that Snowden released was the Verizon warrant which should provide legal standing to Verizon customers since they can now prove to the court that they are being targeted. In the past the court denied standing to everyone because no one could really know whether or not they were on a list since it was all secret.


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More exercises in hairsplitting -- what a waste of time. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #1
You didn't even have to "waste" time posting that, but you did. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #2
Over BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #19
It isn't hairsplitting, it's propaganda at its most nefarious. reusrename Jul 2013 #3
Yeah, TPM is evil for quoting Greenwald and Snowden. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #7
Smart! Snowden and Greenwald are "nefarious". rofl Cha Jul 2013 #25
This corroborates Snowden's claim. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #4
Thanks for this info Hydra Jul 2013 #12
how is it that no one has replied to your post above? grasswire Jul 2013 #13
It's becoming increasingly clear that Snowden's claims of "direct access" were TOTAL BULLSHIT Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #5
Total Lie BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #20
One thing never mentioned is what Snowden has done to "legitimate" analysts in the field VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #6
They're basically robosigners. reusrename Jul 2013 #8
You say this based on what exactly? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #16
No, I don't know anything about what has rained down on them. reusrename Jul 2013 #17
Thank You BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #22
You are very welcome. Try and pass this all along to interested folks. The media won't do it. reusrename Jul 2013 #23
Sock puppet BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #24
It's more like signing an affidavit. That's what the banksters needed for the mortgage theft. reusrename Jul 2013 #27
Checks and Balance BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #28
I totally agree with you about this. reusrename Jul 2013 #29
So your hero Snowden was nothing more than a "robosigner" similar to those used by mortgage co's VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #31
So what kind of hell is raining down on these guys? reusrename Jul 2013 #33
So you don't think that now these guys jobs are effected? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #34
I've tried to figure out what you mean about their jobs being affected, but I can't. reusrename Jul 2013 #35
Sure you can....use your imagination! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #36
! reusrename Jul 2013 #38
So how the hell do you know that all this Snowden guy was just a Robosigner VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #30
I know all this because I have been following this story closely. reusrename Jul 2013 #32
What is this? dkf Jul 2013 #9
The original story that WaPo backtracked on? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #10
It's dated 7/6 and is about a parallel program to PRISM that goes straight to fiber optic cables. dkf Jul 2013 #15
Kick! n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #11
kicking your own thread? grasswire Jul 2013 #14
Kicking your own thread is ugly? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #18
Says you? It must be beautiful thing, then. Cha Jul 2013 #26
She always kicks her own threads. Hates it when they sink. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #40
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2013 #21
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #37
he's a libertarian douche blathering out of his ass at this point... dionysus Jul 2013 #39
LOL, yet other countries are glad to have the information. And the ACLU. I call it a success!! n-t Logical Jul 2013 #41
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