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graham4anything

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16. he could commute, but he cannot pardon.

Tue Jul 9, 2013, 08:07 AM

Jul 2013

and it appeas Siegleman doesn't want a commutation of his sentence, as he insists he is innocent.
Therefore he cannot be pardones under the rules (W doesn't count in rules, but all the others).

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Obama's former White House counsel visits Don Siegelman, working on his appeal [View all] annabanana Jul 2013 OP

Why did he only work a year? Get fed up with Rahm? byeya Jul 2013 #1

a person needs to admit guilt and apologize before a President can give a pardon legally. graham4anything Jul 2013 #4

I'd like to see where it says that! Coyotl Jul 2013 #8

Every single person the President has pardoned has said they were sorry. graham4anything Jul 2013 #10

Same here. He just made that up. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #29

Where did the article say one word about a pardon? bullwinkle428 Jul 2013 #11

He's on Rove's side because Obama is on Rove's side in this one Doctor_J Jul 2013 #13

Post #1 whined about not getting a pardon. Your response is irrelevant to the legal process. graham4anything Jul 2013 #15

Poster was replying to previous poster's questions "Why doesn't Obama sign the pardon? KittyWampus Jul 2013 #23

What bullshit! hootinholler Jul 2013 #26

Oh stop it, a great Democrat was politically assassinated by sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #28

There's a backstory on Craig and it's not pretty starroute Jul 2013 #31

Thanks very much for that. byeya Jul 2013 #37

Rovian 90-percent Jul 2013 #2

Yet another anti-Obama slant on something. Would President Romney or Bush even listen? graham4anything Jul 2013 #3

He's not guilty of anything, and there is nothing to apologize for Doctor_J Jul 2013 #6

Then he can't get a pardon. There are rules, and there are Bush rules. graham4anything Jul 2013 #7

then commute the sentence. Today Doctor_J Jul 2013 #17

Leakers should be in jail, yet Rove never was found to be in violation by the special prosecutor. graham4anything Jul 2013 #19

Yippee. An appeal so the Governor can sit in jail for another 2 years Doctor_J Jul 2013 #5

Yes, everything is Obama's fault. Coyotl Jul 2013 #9

No, but there are some things that he alone can deal with Doctor_J Jul 2013 #12

Good reply. The President should have pardoned him the first week in office. byeya Jul 2013 #14

he could commute, but he cannot pardon. graham4anything Jul 2013 #16

Actually, Article II, section 2 of the Constitution authorizes the President "to grant Reprieves and AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #30

But he is not guilty so therefore the above don't apply. Spiegelman did not admit his guilt. graham4anything Jul 2013 #34

Quite frankly, I think that you are only pretending to be ignorant and stupid. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #35

So you are using a Bushfamily member as an example? There is Bush, there is what 42 others have done graham4anything Jul 2013 #36

No. The plain language of the Constitution's Pardon Provision remains the same regardless AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #38

Does anyone actually think that President Obama would let Seligman sit in prison for one day if Freddie Stubbs Jul 2013 #22

A whole lot of former US and Ass't US Attornys believe that Siegleman was unfairly treated byeya Jul 2013 #25

GET WITH THE PROGRAM, DOCTOR_J Skittles Jul 2013 #41

I think a Presidential pardon is coiming. At least it should be. Petition the WH nt kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #18

This is a joke, right? Doctor_J Jul 2013 #27

Lots of applicable rules, antiquie Jul 2013 #20

Those Administrative rules are not a restriction on the Constitutional power of the President. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #32

Never thought they were, antiquie Jul 2013 #39

about heaven05 Jul 2013 #21

K&R. nt OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #24

I wonder why. What's the quid pro quo being demanded? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #33

Pardon him today before you stop work and call it a day byeya Jul 2013 #40