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In reply to the discussion: Does Snowden know Venezuela records and broadcasts activists' phone calls? [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)40. Consider this
if Snowden, as his supporters believe, did the country a great service, he would have had a much stronger case by staying and facing the consequences. The debate would have remained focused on the NSA's domestic program.
William Binney, Thomas Drake, and Thomas Tamm are whistleblowers who stayed and faced the consequences of their actions. They were not persecuted, they faced prosecution. They are not in jail. In fact, Tamm was the one who exposed Bush's illegal eavesdropping on Americans.
Remember whistleblower Thomas Tamm?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023032225
Even in a worse-case scenario, Snowden would likely have been released on bail:
WASHINGTON A federal grand jury in Washington has indicted a State Department analyst suspected of disclosing top-secret information about North Korea to Fox News, the third time the Obama administration has filed criminal charges accusing people of leaks to the news media.
The indictment, dated Aug. 19 and unsealed on Friday, named Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, 43, of McLean, Va., a specialist in nuclear proliferation who worked as a contractor for the State Department. Mr. Kim, who has worked as a high-level foreign affairs analyst for a decade for various federal agencies, is accused of disclosing the information in June 2009 and of lying to the F.B.I. in September 2009.
Mr. Kim, an American citizen, pleaded not guilty on Friday in Federal District Court before Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly and was released on $100,000 bond.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/28/world/americas/28leak.html
The indictment, dated Aug. 19 and unsealed on Friday, named Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, 43, of McLean, Va., a specialist in nuclear proliferation who worked as a contractor for the State Department. Mr. Kim, who has worked as a high-level foreign affairs analyst for a decade for various federal agencies, is accused of disclosing the information in June 2009 and of lying to the F.B.I. in September 2009.
Mr. Kim, an American citizen, pleaded not guilty on Friday in Federal District Court before Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly and was released on $100,000 bond.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/28/world/americas/28leak.html
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Does Snowden know Venezuela records and broadcasts activists' phone calls? [View all]
uhnope
Jul 2013
OP
Bruce Fein, who the hell is he, and why would Lonnie Snowden be giving Eric Bolling
Cleita
Jul 2013
#41
He's facing 30 years with just the current charges. The charges will be piled on. In reality,
morningfog
Jul 2013
#30
He would be free to live in Venezuela so long as they don't decide to imprison him
treestar
Jul 2013
#65
As an aside, Russia said he could stay with conditions on what he could and couldn't do.
Raine1967
Jul 2013
#69
K&R The ignorance, shrieking and uninformed hypocracy about all of this has been mortifyiing
Number23
Jul 2013
#3
This is a guy who went on and on about the wonderful freedoms of China
apples and oranges
Jul 2013
#12
It's "Guess the Point" again. Because Venezuela is an authoritarian state you
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#19
And the USofA wont torture the prisoners in Gitmo either I bet. Except most of the
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#23
Yes, your stating "He doesn't face anything more complicated than a trial"
Katashi_itto
Jul 2013
#32
How pathetic and telling that even *you* are not certain that he won't be tortured
woo me with science
Jul 2013
#31
Life in a US prison, especially as a high profile inmate would very probably
morningfog
Jul 2013
#34
If taken alive, Snowden would probably wind up in ADX Florence, the federal Supermax prison
kenny blankenship
Jul 2013
#75
I dont like being called a troll by anyone, esp someone new here. Plez dont bother to respond to me
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#61
Did I get personal? You called me a troll and forfeit further discussion. Go back to Free Republic
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#73
Snowden chose democracy for America. Those that live in denial will not understand
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#80
He broke the law as those at the Boston Tea Party broke the law. The laws are written to protect
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#86
The USA is a worse police state than China? Your irrational hatred of the USA is showing.
uhnope
Jul 2013
#87
China is worse but we rank high. But I bet you love the security of the stong, dominant
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#88
And if it was determined you made a false report, you would be prosecuted for that.
randome
Jul 2013
#39
If I report a crime the police will investigate to see if I am lying. We need to investigate to
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#44
"But there is a bureaucratic maze of safeguards and restrictions in place at the NSA."
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#50
Bullcrap. Grayson, Wilson, Wyden, Udall, Plame, Ellsberg, 26 Senators, are not screaming, but
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#45
Whatever crap he has to endure in Venezuela it will still be better than this
kenny blankenship
Jul 2013
#74