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suffragette

(12,232 posts)
13. Oil and coal
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:20 PM
Jul 2013

There have been numerous new oil and coal moving ventures being pushed out here on the west coast too, cali.
Most, perhaps all, to supply China.

And these stretch from Canada to Washington to Oregon.

One is the increase in coal trains from Wyoming. These are uncovered and would sift the coal dust throughout the route. Since the trains have right of way, they would also block train crossings, even for emergency vehicles, something that has already been an issue with fewer of these. They derail, too. And note Goldman Sachs is set to profit from this, too.

http://www.coaltrainfacts.org/key-facts


This one is about shipping the crude oil from fracking out through WA and OR:

http://columbiariverkeeper.org/featured/crude-oil-terminal-threaten-columbia-river-communities/


And the Enbridge Northern Gateway project:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enbridge_Northern_Gateway_Pipelines


All of this seems to have ramped up significantly and recently.

I wonder how much is tied to TPP negotiations. We still really know only a small amount about those secret agreements, and those bits only because of leaks.

kick cali Jul 2013 #1
Still selling the keystone, eh, cali? RobertEarl Jul 2013 #12
Quebec disaster highlights the danger in moving oil by rail cali Jul 2013 #2
And the recent Mayflower, Arkansas disaster Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #4
yep, they both suck cali Jul 2013 #5
I can certainly understand your feeling about this Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #6
The recent gasoline pipeline disaster in Bellingham, WA too suffragette Jul 2013 #9
I had forgotten all about that Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #28
The path to our fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon our nation's soul is grooved to run. Eddie Haskell Jul 2013 #3
Okay then. I mean whaat??? cali Jul 2013 #7
kick cali Jul 2013 #8
There's no good way to transport oil, the only way is to reduce demand. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #10
Every Plant And Tree Died’: Huge Alberta Pipeline Spill Raises Safety Questions As Keystone Looms G_j Jul 2013 #11
Yep. there's no good way or even least bad way. cali Jul 2013 #14
Oil and coal suffragette Jul 2013 #13
Political and econmic expediency will be the death malaise Jul 2013 #16
Yes, and profit for the few at the expense of the many suffragette Jul 2013 #19
You are a courageous soul for posting this. The answer is to produce energy locally> KittyWampus Jul 2013 #15
It's just the facts and many, many environmentalists say the same thing cali Jul 2013 #18
We don't agree often, but we do here suffragette Jul 2013 #22
Let China buy it. We don't need it down here. Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #17
And what about the Salish sea and the areas along the routes? suffragette Jul 2013 #20
We can't control Canada, they are a sovereign nation Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #23
The Salish Sea crosses the border suffragette Jul 2013 #24
I never said it would. I live near a watery boarder with Canada too. Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #25
ANALYST: The Great US Energy Boom Is Already Stagnating FarCenter Jul 2013 #21
We could always leave the oil in the ground until we have this figured out NoOneMan Jul 2013 #26
ha ha. like that will ever happen cali Jul 2013 #27
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