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55. Thank you for replying. I'm sorry if I've been annoying & repetitive on this issue
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 03:35 PM
Jul 2013

As one who has protested wars for many years I take civil rights for all people very seriously.

I am as staunch on this issue as I am in my support for universal healthcare. No person should be denied quality health care based on income inequality.

However, I do support the right for free enterprise to compete with universal health care if it is transparent and regulated fairly. There is nothing wrong with honest profits, competition, and incentive for innovation if it improves the health and/or everyday lives of Americans

Looking at the numbers though universal healthcare is statistically kicking American insurance based health care's ass.

Though no system is perfect I believe universal health care has been shown to be more humane and cost effective based on consistent study findings.

To be fair part of America's poor health findings according to a the recent report by the National Research Council are social factors.

The research council found that social factors like traffic fatalities & guns also affected the data:


U.S. Ranks Below 16 Other Rich Countries In Health Report

by Richard Knox January 09, 2013 5:47 PM

It's no news that the U.S. has lower life expectancy and higher infant mortality than most high-income countries. But a magisterial new says Americans are actually less healthy across their entire life spans than citizens of 16 other wealthy nations.

And the gap is steadily widening.

"What struck us — and it was quite sobering — was the recurring trend in which the U.S. seems to be slipping behind other high-income countries," the lead author of the report, Dr. , tells Shots.

~Snip~


The panel concludes that part of the nation's poor ranking can be attributed to problems with its $2.6 trillion-a-year health care system (the world's most expensive by far). Those problems include the 50 million Americans without health insurance, fewer doctors per capita, less access to primary care and fragmented management of complex chronic diseases.

But the new report places more stress on nonmedical shortcomings.

~Snip~

Guns have a lot to do with the homicide and accidental deaths. The report notes that murder rates involving guns are 20 times higher in the U.S. than in 22 other rich countries.

"Clearly we need to do something about violence and firearm-related homicides if we're going to close the gap," Woolf says. "It's a major contributor to the loss of years of life in our country among young people."

~Snip~

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/01/09/168976602/u-s-ranks-below-16-other-rich-countries-in-health-report


Two of my pet issues I guess. Sorry for the rant connected to my reply.



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O_O Amonester Jul 2013 #1
Somehow, I doubt the Founders anticipated our modern ways in quite the detail you are implying. nt Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #2
I don't know. The Quasi-War was pretty early Recursion Jul 2013 #4
I doubt they anticipated assault rifles in quite the detail 2nd amendment fans imply. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #8
+100 demosincebirth Jul 2013 #13
I doubt they anticipated private contractors like Booz Allen in quite the same way either think Jul 2013 #29
I agree. Private contractors shouldn't be involved in any of this. n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #54
Thank you for replying. I'm sorry if I've been annoying & repetitive on this issue think Jul 2013 #55
No need to apologize for a "rant." pnwmom Jul 2013 #56
Was Booz Allen granted a letter Marque and Reprisal? Wait don't tell me. think Jul 2013 #3
Essentially. They send out teams with some weapons systems Recursion Jul 2013 #7
And still we wouldn't know because it is classified... think Jul 2013 #11
I can think of plenty that aren't classified Recursion Jul 2013 #12
Thanks. I guess we will just have to take the govt's word that they are not violating the spirit think Jul 2013 #14
Yoo's unitary executive stuff is absurd Recursion Jul 2013 #19
And now important interpretations are classified. That is not a precedent I'm fond of think Jul 2013 #21
well said think! liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #23
Thank you! /nt think Jul 2013 #30
I agree with your views and would like to subscribe to your news letter. nt Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #49
Thank you for the laugh. I appreciate it :) think Jul 2013 #51
The Democratic Underground.com is a wonderful place to learn and share. think Jul 2013 #53
And Raytheon begat Northrup Grumman begat Boeing begat...n/t leftstreet Jul 2013 #5
Ah, the "Letters of Marque" ProSense Jul 2013 #6
So Ron Paul supports using the Letters of marque? think Jul 2013 #15
I seem to remember he considers it a "vast untapped resource" or some crap like that Recursion Jul 2013 #18
Ron Paul favors using the Letter of Marque to use private armies and contractors think Jul 2013 #22
I'm saying it sucks and it was ever thus (nt) Recursion Jul 2013 #38
Completely agree. While I am not against transparent (non secret) cooperation think Jul 2013 #42
PATRIOT and AUMF should both be repealed Recursion Jul 2013 #43
I prefer dragging "the devil we know" before congress. Devil's hate sunshine.... think Jul 2013 #44
I think we are in agreement on this because I am against private armies also think Jul 2013 #17
So where is the open debate in congress that would enable one fifth can keep the goings of the Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #9
The one-fifth is a separate issue from the secrecy Recursion Jul 2013 #10
Yes, where does it say that? think Jul 2013 #48
That is all well and good if they have declared the enemy to be the public at large nolabels Jul 2013 #16
Show us the part about a secret interpretation of law Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #20
I still haven't found a provision for secret interpretation of the law in the Constititution.... think Jul 2013 #31
yeah..... dtom67 Jul 2013 #24
If we have a totalitarian government as you claim ... JoePhilly Jul 2013 #32
If evolution is true, why are there still monkeys? nt Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #50
So you are saying that our totalitarian government would NOT misuse JoePhilly Jul 2013 #52
Congressional secrecy isn't the same as Executive secrecy.... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #25
Thank you. aquart Jul 2013 #26
And the Constitution specifically allowed for slavery with the 3/5 compromise cali Jul 2013 #27
That and other things are my problem with originalism Recursion Jul 2013 #37
No you aren't, you are actually offering examples from the past to excuse present problems Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #40
Well, no, I actually know why I posted what I did Recursion Jul 2013 #41
What was their stance on executive secrecy? Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #28
Most of them were alive and in Congress when Washington refused to make trade negotiations public Recursion Jul 2013 #35
So you agree that when my Senators say secrets are being kept from them that is not Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #33
I interpret this as even if it is secret, it can be entered on the Journal with 20% ... kentuck Jul 2013 #34
I can see that interpretation Recursion Jul 2013 #36
Senators say secrets are kept from them. Illegally. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #39
There is indeed a problem and it revolves around the private contractor NSA relationship think Jul 2013 #45
Not one word of that applies to Contractors or the Executive Agencies 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #46
Yes, and the Constitution specifically allows us to throw their asses out if they do so. bemildred Jul 2013 #47
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