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In reply to the discussion: An alternative view from a “lackey butt-kissing shit” [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)There are a few gaping holes in your logic,
and some rather bold omissions.
1)You open with the government Surveillance Cameras not only along the border,
some over 100 miles from the border itself,
and then rationalize that this is not an infringement of our Civil Rights because they aren't "hidden".
That is arguable,
but what is NOT arguable is that you OMITTED any mention of the
Security Check Points up to 100 miles into the interior of border states where vehicles are STOPPED, HELD, and Searched without any probable cause what-so-ever.
I would like to see you make your case that these are not a usurpation of our 4th Amendment rights.
2)Your attack on FDR over the Internment needs a lot more depth to be understood in context in which it occurred. The Japanese Internment has been cited as the Lowest Point of the FDR Administration, and everyone today acknowledges that it was a serious mistake and an abridgment of Constitutional Rights.
How then can you use The Internment to justify the current usurpation of our Civil Liberties when EVERYBODY admits that it was wrong?
Id that was WRONG for FDR, isn't it also WRONG for Obama today?
Are you trying to say that since FDR made a mistake,
we should avert our eyes and say NOTHING if President Obama is making the same mistake today?
Being thrown into a "declared" World War in Two Hemispheres
immediately after the Pacific Fleet had been sunk,
and the continent of Europe conquered by an unstoppable ARMY
is profoundly different than being in an undeclared War on a Word against a handful of international criminals who, even IF they had a suitcase bomb,
pose very little threat to the existence of our country.
To attempt to use these two very different circumstances to EXCUSE Constitutional Excesses that are occurring today is simple NOT justified.
I could keep going,
but I'm going to stop here and offer these rebuttals to your FIRST TWO items
as evidence of WHY I labeled your post a "Manifesto".
It is NOT a clinical attempt to describe our current situation,
but a lengthy slanted attempt to rationalize your position and discount those who don't agree with you.
Good Day.
