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Cal33

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56. I'm pretty much convinced that the extremists of any political party, the fanatics in short, are
Sat Dec 17, 2011, 02:42 PM
Dec 2011

the ones who are capable of becoming dictators. Stalin and Hitler were more alike than different.
They can be looked upon as the two sides of a cracked ring. They are so close. Both are mass
killers and murderers. The Communists never did have a chance to play any significant role in
this country of ours. The Fascists, however, have succeeded in gaining a great deal of power.
I wouldn't trust either one of them.

It's not apparent to me that Mr. Obama has quite effectively broken the back of the GOP. Not by a
long shot. In fact, many think that politicians of both parties are heavily influenced by Corporate
America, and the present-day GOP seems to be owned by Corporate America -- lock, stock and
barrel. Sometime ago a writer in this forum said, "Today, it's not blue vs. red, or Dem. vs. Pub.
Today it's corporations vs. you and me." This seems more accurate to me.

Mr. Obama, being black, does attract more minority votes to the Dem. Party. That is to be expected.
The Right-wingers have been waging the most ferocious attacks and telling lies about him in all the
disgusting ways one can think of, but they had done the same thing to Mr. Clinton, didn't they?
I remember a billionaire banker of PA, Mellon, had paid out of his own pocket the expenses involved
in sending private detectives to Arkansas in order to dig up dirt, any kind of dirt, on him. They could
find nothing until some woman showed up, claiming Clinton had had sexual affairs with her. I think
the Right-wingers would do the same thing to any president or presidential candidate who wasn't one
of their own.

Let me muse a bit about political parties and dictatorships: Those people who tend to be attracted to
have things cut and dried, because they become anxiety-ridden when facing situations with no definite
answers as to which is the right way -- these are the ones who tend to choose professions like the
military. They take orders from above and pass them along to those below. Have you noticed that
most military officers are Republicans? The only high-ranking military Democrat I know of is Gen. Clark.
I doubt it that more than one in ten officers is a Democrat. The same thing is true of the
personalities of those who join religious orders, priests and nuns, where obedience is heavily stressed.
(As always, there will be exceptions). With these, it is easier to have a few people with power at the
top. They have a ready-made army of followers quite willing to do as they are told.

On the other hand, Democrats tend to go, each his own way. Sometimes it's hard to get them to stick
together, even when there is a real need for them to unite. A dictatorship won't rise easily from this
group.

I think fanatics don't belong to either of the groups mentioned above. They form a group of their own.
And sociopathy, narcissism, egomania...etc...probably play an important role in their personality
make-up. These are the ones who become the dictators.

From the above, I'd say that the possibility of the Republicans forming a dictatorship is greater than that
of the Democrats. There are more obedient followers among the Republicans. Democrats tend to prefer
going their own separate ways.

Now, Cain was briefly a front-runner among the Repub. candidates. Just imagine, if he hadn't loused
himself up, and if he should have won the Repub. nomination, there would be two black men running
for president in 2012. That would have been really interesting, wouldn't it?

Hey, Anatos, there is an extremely interesting thread with great replies titled "I'm not sure how to ask
this, but, is anybody feeling a great nauseous foreboding about..." The very first response brings up
another highly interesting topic. I'm sure you'd enjoy reading them. It's in this same forum. There are
over 170 replies.

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I trust the ACLU. Hell Hath No Fury Dec 2011 #1
I trust and support the ACLU also. But how long has this new National Defense bill Cal33 Dec 2011 #7
Here's from ACLU today. Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #14
If we said we trusted President Obama treestar Dec 2011 #43
Where do intend to learn more? dogknob Dec 2011 #2
Unfortunately, I don't know of any source that will provide reliable last-minue information. Cal33 Dec 2011 #11
ACLU, CCR and Human Rights Watch all can do that. nt EFerrari Dec 2011 #16
Thanks for the information. Cal33 Dec 2011 #26
What happened to his promise to close Gitmo? rhett o rick Dec 2011 #3
Actually, passing this bill could enable him to finally do that. phleshdef Dec 2011 #10
it gives this President and ANY FUTURE President the power to detain or not indefinitely. period. piratefish08 Dec 2011 #28
Only if you believe in oversimplified, wholly inaccurate bullshit. phleshdef Dec 2011 #39
More rational thinking Anatos Dec 2011 #52
Then read parts of the bill.. SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #4
I clicked on the link above and got another link. I clicked on the second link Cal33 Dec 2011 #27
I like the Library of Congress "Thomas" site for reading legislation bhikkhu Dec 2011 #57
Many thanks. I do appreciate it. Cal33 Dec 2011 #59
We're leaving Iraq ... and the last thing we should do is know that. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #5
Thanks for bringing a note of sanity to the frenzy flamingdem Dec 2011 #6
If you see me post "Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad" ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #8
Obama can stop being bad and Congress can stop being worse and much of it would solve TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #21
Ohhhh scary .... get the fainting couch. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #29
There was something in the OP about reading legislation before jumping to conclusions... bhikkhu Dec 2011 #58
He doesn't make it very difficult for them to do that. nt Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #46
How so? Anatos Dec 2011 #53
"Because to keep ratings UP, they need the election to be close." I assume Cal33 Dec 2011 #15
You have pretty much nailed what is going on. emulatorloo Dec 2011 #19
On that ratings thing... Anatos Dec 2011 #24
Once the GOP picks their "ahem" candidate ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #38
You act as if Anatos Dec 2011 #47
Oh sure ... no disagreement that they would pretend to not JoePhilly Dec 2011 #54
They already are Anatos Dec 2011 #55
It's annoying. redqueen Dec 2011 #42
It is all about Anatos Dec 2011 #48
I smell Rove roseBudd Dec 2011 #9
Try toothpaste. Robb Dec 2011 #12
Or Lysol :) Ship of Fools Dec 2011 #13
"I smell Rove." The all-time big and weird sicko. I wonder how much longer this "era of sickos" Cal33 Dec 2011 #17
I could have done without Obama lying he was going to veto the bill. provis99 Dec 2011 #18
Mixed feelings karynnj Dec 2011 #20
No, he cannot because it only covers his administration. He should veto or fucking resign. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #22
You know they do these appropriations bills every year, right? Robb Dec 2011 #31
How maddeningly cerebral of you Anatos Dec 2011 #23
Just a day or two ago I wrote in this forum that if someone like Sanders were to run Cal33 Dec 2011 #25
I honestly have no problem Anatos Dec 2011 #49
I'm pretty much convinced that the extremists of any political party, the fanatics in short, are Cal33 Dec 2011 #56
So...the mandatory insurance bill...makes indefinite detention of US citizens OK? Romulox Dec 2011 #30
I was just pointing out that I heard so many complaints about the Healthcare Reform Cal33 Dec 2011 #33
The "Healthcare Reform" bill forces Americans to buy private insurance; it's awful, and by no Romulox Dec 2011 #34
I admitted there were weaknesses in the Healthcare Reform bill, and also said that Cal33 Dec 2011 #37
That is all they got. comipinko Dec 2011 #36
Nor would I Anatos Dec 2011 #50
The OP claimed it was all too complicated for her, and that we should just trust authority. Romulox Dec 2011 #60
The OP claimed no such thing Anatos Dec 2011 #61
I miss the unrec. Logical Dec 2011 #32
From what I've seen Anatos Dec 2011 #51
A big UN-REC !! comipinko Dec 2011 #35
Trying to find anything good in that bill is like trying to find the clean end of a turd. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #40
My intention was not to make this bill look good. I was simply saying to take Cal33 Dec 2011 #41
80%? I get better odds at the nearest tribal casino derby378 Dec 2011 #44
He should have vetoed it based on spending alone... Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #45
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