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In reply to the discussion: Former Hostess Employees Bitter About Wage Cuts (fork lift operator- $11 an hour) [View all]CreekDog
(46,192 posts)167. that's BS and paired with your denial of global warming, the pattern is emerging
now you should be proud of the pattern that is emerging unless perchance you don't really want people to notice it here.
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Former Hostess Employees Bitter About Wage Cuts (fork lift operator- $11 an hour) [View all]
cali
Jul 2013
OP
Every time I see workers in mass layoffs or salaries cut, it's management that failed to do its job.
SharonAnn
Jul 2013
#103
that's BS and paired with your denial of global warming, the pattern is emerging
CreekDog
Jul 2013
#167
wrong,the greatest companies in the US were not government RUN companies but were heavily subsidized
kelliekat44
Jul 2013
#29
"others' money"? HOSTESS is the one who stole "others' money". "Communism" is apparently
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#134
"others money", a favorite RW talking point. Enjoy your stay. You won't be here long.
liberal_at_heart
Jul 2013
#209
Most citizens from democratic socialist countries in Scandinavia would disagree. Strongly. nt
stillwaiting
Jul 2013
#48
It does NOT detract from the FACT that their form of socialism has provided
stillwaiting
Jul 2013
#82
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc, followed by a bumper sticker, and then a rationalization for summation
LanternWaste
Jul 2013
#121
Actually some investors are starting to divest from WalMart over their shitty labor practices.
Starry Messenger
Jul 2013
#111
But you can't blame the new owners" bullshit, corporate toady.. poor mis-understood owners
leftyohiolib
Jul 2013
#15
I operated a fork lift in 1960, fresh out of high school. It is not an upwardly
bike man
Jul 2013
#9
The guy is not 'expected' to do anything. He can accept a job at several dollars
bike man
Jul 2013
#21
I'd say he's learned not to trust employers or the US government, at a minimum. Also to do the
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#138
as another poster has pointed out, $11/hour buys you what minimum wage did in the 60s.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#154
I agree that the wage itself is bullshit. However, NOT because he has 22 years experience
joeglow3
Jul 2013
#176
The man worked at the same company for 22 years and maxed out at $16/hour, $33K/year.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#193
It's their problem because they will not get good, experienced employees at those wages.
surrealAmerican
Jul 2013
#14
Per IRS data, average income for the middle quintile of households in 2009 was $64.3K.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#199
Because IRS has the actual income/tax data, not the 'stated' data from census (which btw is noted
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#219
The guy gets $500/month for a 'pension'. not upper-middle class. Class is about relation to the
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#146
There are only two definitions of class that make any sense. One is about position on the income
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#191
what bullshit you spout. no, the ptb benefit when people like you whine about how a bakery
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#190
since you don't know what 'his wife the RN' makes, i'm not sure how it is you draw that conclusion.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#197
who are you kidding? $500 a month pension & he's in the 'upper middle class'?
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#140
he didn't 'retire at 55'. he lost his fucking job & had his pension stolen. try reading the article
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#188
he wasn't in the upper-middle-class when he was working & he isn't in the upper middle class
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#196
There's no perspective via which a bakery worker is upper-middle class. Even if he's married
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#216
And that's how it starts...the whole idea behind what's happened to our middle class.
maddiemom
Jul 2013
#53
We need to raise the minimum wage, and establish a guaranteed mimimum income for those who
reformist2
Jul 2013
#17
Forklifts can be damn dangerous. Shouldn't people controlling dangerous machines make a little more
tclambert
Jul 2013
#22
When you compare US wages to those in other countries, do you compare healthcare costs too?
Demit
Jul 2013
#59
If he can chef in "an upscale market," he's far from a ski bum. A lot of parents
maddiemom
Jul 2013
#57
Good for both of you. My brother and sister-in-law were upset that my nephew
maddiemom
Jul 2013
#101
bullshit. hostess increased their execs' pay while they were supposedly 'bankrupt'.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#217
big kr. happening in my town. I hate the fucks that are doing this, not only to this country, but
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#152
It can be a risk to eat food made by angry employees. Good luck to those willing to do so.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#92
This article reads like the forklift operators are acting like ungrateful children.
Apophis
Jul 2013
#107
Sorry I thought you were expressing your opinion about the workers. I'm sorry
HangOnKids
Jul 2013
#142
First, $16 an hour is huge bucks in many parts of the country, and $11 an hour is nice as well...
Demo_Chris
Jul 2013
#112
You're the one mocking this guy for not being happy about being paid shit.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2013
#172
I live in one of the cheapest parts of the country and 16 an hour is not much.
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2013
#144
You're right, but it is MORE than virtually any of America's top ten employers pay
Demo_Chris
Jul 2013
#155
Your argument is basically "Hey it's terrible but there's nothing better so suck it up."
Gravitycollapse
Jul 2013
#170
The fact that it can get even worse doesn't mean we have to pretend 11/hr is 'nice'
RedCappedBandit
Jul 2013
#168
If the posters who say such things are being serious, I am shocked and amazed.
reformist2
Jul 2013
#210
$11/hr for an experienced tradesman is an insult anywhere in the US or Canada. (nt)
Posteritatis
Jul 2013
#161
Five people in this thread alone defending the slow asphyxiation of the middle class.
LanternWaste
Jul 2013
#123
it's disgusting. one is retired so i guess the attitude is fuck you, i got mine.
frylock
Jul 2013
#182
another company gets away with suppressing wages and we're suppose to believe the
liberal_at_heart
Jul 2013
#165
From a strictly financial point of view $11 an hour may be better then being unemployed
tiredtoo
Jul 2013
#185