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In reply to the discussion: Why the Ruling Class is So Upset About Edward Snowden [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)59. Absolutely. This is a threat to The Way Things Are Done.
Nothing makes an insider or elitist angrier than someone bucking the chain of command. There is nice, cozy arrangement right now, particularly for national issues, wherein very little information not beneficial to government is reported in-depth. There are gobs of "leaks," but somehow they're all helpful to the establishment.
Look at all the "classified" info dumped trying to defend the NSA spying scandal. "Zillions of terror plots were stopped!" Yet not one squeal of "traitor," nor any threats of prosecution.
This is serious stuff. Damaging information is the precise information people need to hear, and it's largely been successfully characterized as crime. This is the same logic used on progressives in general. Occupy, an explicitly peaceful, non-violent movement, was nonetheless stalked and spied upon and infiltrated, because, you know, complaining about monied interests or government corruption is tantamount to treason.
What's going to happen at some point is truly "damaging" secrets will be revealed, because now it all goes in the treason bucket.
And I'm going to reverse a habit I have here and point out this is AN OBAMA PROBLEM. This administration, not Bush, began abusing the Espionage Act and applying it to whistleblowing and leaking.
It's not acceptable because he's doing it. And it won't be acceptable when the next conservative continues it.
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You have to realize that they're all in it for the money. Fuck the country. Money rules.
JM42
Jul 2013
#3
Thanks, but he was still drunk off his ass. Perhaps that's the only way he CAN tell the truth.
JM42
Jul 2013
#16
He treated a head of state like a hired hand. Remember what he did on Letterman?
Octafish
Jul 2013
#41
''What Snowden did is illegal. What the government is doing is much, much worse.''
Octafish
Jul 2013
#42
'We are the targets, not Al Queda'. That is the scandal they are trying to cover up.
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#48
I think they are fearful that old scandals, BCCI, the Vatican Bank, etc, will be seen as part of
byeya
Jul 2013
#9
Yes. Workers are throwaway commodities along with the resources used to import or make goods
byeya
Jul 2013
#26
It seems the corruption has become systemic, a qualification for advancement at least.
Octafish
Jul 2013
#70
If you're concerned about Riggs Bank, try Googling "Riggs Bank" and "Politico"
RufusTFirefly
Jul 2013
#75
2 pronged: they own those companies, and they likely benefit financially from the secrets.
Myrina
Jul 2013
#13
I hope this gets blown wide open in the months to come. Our media won't report much and will
Cleita
Jul 2013
#34
But I thought everything he revealed was already known, and was also (somehow) a lie
MNBrewer
Jul 2013
#58
Union rules say they have to have a lunch break. No wait that can't be right.
A Simple Game
Jul 2013
#97
I hate to ask, but in what way is the quote you highlighted deceptive nonsense?
Karmadillo
Jul 2013
#72