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109. Snowden Asylum Bid Leaves a Quandary on Getting There

Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:37 AM

Jul 2013

By David Lerman - Jul 9, 2013 10:35 PM ET

... avoiding a route over U.S. allies wouldn’t be easy.

Allen Thomson, a former Central Intelligence Agency analyst, outlined a theoretical route for Foreign Policy magazine: “Fly north to the Barents Sea, thence over to and through the Denmark Strait. Continue south, steering clear of Newfoundland until getting to the east of the Windward Islands. Fly through some convenient gap between islands and continue on to Caracas.”

Thomson pegged the distance of such a trip at 11,000 kilometers, or about 6,800 miles ...

WikiLeaks ... had a chartered airplane on stand-by to carry him from Hong Kong to Moscow ... The organization, which is running short of cash, “currently” has no plans to fly Snowden out of Moscow, Olafur Vignir Sigurvinsson, an Iceland-based WikiLeaks representative, said by phone this week ...

Chartering a long-range jet aircraft traveling from Moscow to Caracas would cost at least $134,490 ...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-10/snowden-asylum-bid-leaves-a-quandary-on-getting-there.html

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�Tomorrow the first phase of Edward Snowden�s �Flight of Liberty� campaign will be launched.. [View all] HipChick Jul 2013 OP

Better Assange than the MIC/NSA/CIA. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #1

+1. Those people are swimming in cash. They have so much money they don't know what to limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #50

Your assumption would be false. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #2

Flight of Liberty. I like the ring of that. nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #3

Yeah, so all you fans, cough it up.. make sure you donate for Cha Jul 2013 #4

That has a better ring to it.. HipChick Jul 2013 #7

! Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #24

and if you donate within the next 10 minutes Whisp Jul 2013 #25

lol nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #36

Oh Whisp.... sheshe2 Jul 2013 #59

Proud to be a fan of Democracy and the US Constitution. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #51

+1! snot Jul 2013 #58

Actually I think they have quit pretending, zeemike Jul 2013 #84

Privatization cannot be trusted with national security. See: Snowden. aquart Jul 2013 #176

Snowden for Depend briefs: Galraedia Jul 2013 #85

No, Snowden Runs and Cha Jul 2013 #94

LMAO! HipChick Jul 2013 #96

DUzy. aquart Jul 2013 #178

He's running and he's leaking... Whisp Jul 2013 #104

Nice teabag-style theme BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #5

Oh, you Cha Jul 2013 #33

Being championed by Assange, with his Russian-funded TV show BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #46

If you mean RT, it's one of the best news organizations available here. If you prefer sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #52

A more honest broker in this situation you will not find BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #55

Oh, I'm sure we could, but not on American Corporate Controlled media which is mostly sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #62

Assange owes the Russians and is gentle on them BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #65

You are clearly unfamiliar with the history of Wikileaks. Lol! Omg, he 'owes the Russians'. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #72

It's hilarious alright BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #75

+1 best.political.irony.ever flamingdem Jul 2013 #76

Yet all this consorting with the likes of Putin and Assange is FAR better than CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #194

So, bias in media is okay as long as it agrees with yours? brooklynite Jul 2013 #120

Really? RT is one of the best? Tell me about their coverage of Pussy Riot or Putin's crackdown on arely staircase Jul 2013 #152

No you can't roflmao Cha Jul 2013 #56

I know....yesterday one of his fanboys had the handle VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #97

Just rent a Macy's Day Parade balloon and be done with it. randome Jul 2013 #6

Thanks for finding another photo of Snowden. FSogol Jul 2013 #39

ROFL! HipChick Jul 2013 #41

Is that Pikachu? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #86

cool name quinnox Jul 2013 #8

The cost of getting a jet that can avoid non-friendly airspace without needing refueling HipChick Jul 2013 #9

if true, that is interesting quinnox Jul 2013 #10

The thing is Paypal,Visa,MC could be blocked.. HipChick Jul 2013 #13

that is what I'm thinking quinnox Jul 2013 #16

I've got a couple of bucks I will donate for that!!! bvar22 Jul 2013 #12

do help the sweet bebe jesus any way you can.. in fact, give all the money you have... dionysus Jul 2013 #18

Rolf?? Is that you? bvar22 Jul 2013 #19

get what right, precisely? dionysus Jul 2013 #21

all of it nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #42

put that couple of bucks towards a bar of soap Whisp Jul 2013 #105

back to the sixties ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #150

oh yeah, that's Exactly what I meant. Whisp Jul 2013 #189

This message was self-deleted by its author Whisp Jul 2013 #188

that would be Flight of the Libertarians. n/t Whisp Jul 2013 #27

I like these guys' 'flight' much, MUCH better Number23 Jul 2013 #30

That doesn't load for me Whisp Jul 2013 #32

It's a weird little tv show called Flight of the Concords. that's all. Number23 Jul 2013 #37

Dave Chapelle is touring with them this summer.. HipChick Jul 2013 #91

Dave Chapelle on tour! Great flamingdem Jul 2013 #146

+1 Wish all the libertarians would join him and go elsewhere. FSogol Jul 2013 #34

Might I suggest the Libertarian Paradise known as Somalia? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #98

Perfect: no taxes, small gubermint, moar gunz! FSogol Jul 2013 #112

DUzy. aquart Jul 2013 #177

It's apparently the first chapter of Snowden's autobiography... OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #93

What's a heliocenter flamingdem Jul 2013 #99

A made-up word. Derived from the Greek "heliocentric". OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #102

An excellent word. Heliocenter. Brilliant. aquart Jul 2013 #181

I'm actually surprised that it's not. OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #187

Heliocenter is now a word. aquart Jul 2013 #193

So it seems they want to charter a jet? Some other DUer said it would be about Cleita Jul 2013 #11

I am sure Feds will find a way to stop the coffers flowing HipChick Jul 2013 #14

Also, I wonder if there is a way they could intercept a jet like they do when one Cleita Jul 2013 #17

Finding a charter company with the right kind of jet that is also willing to cross the US hack89 Jul 2013 #53

Actually I think it will be easy HipChick Jul 2013 #61

Assange may be able to hitch a ride too. Whisp Jul 2013 #87

You have me imagining the Liberty Flight stopping over at the Ecuadoran Embassy flamingdem Jul 2013 #100

C'mon when it comes to business, there are those who put that first. Cleita Jul 2013 #77

You don't think for a second that the US government would make like miserable for them? hack89 Jul 2013 #113

I don't see this ending well...aiding and abetting a felon.. HipChick Jul 2013 #118

IOKIYAR applies here. Trump rented property to Khaddafi when no when else would. He fell Cleita Jul 2013 #125

Trump is not going to get involved. He is no fool. hack89 Jul 2013 #127

Of course he isn't unless he owns a charter jet company and I doubt he does. I used him Cleita Jul 2013 #129

Tom Morello offered to pay. bunnies Jul 2013 #165

Don't know. I haven't heard or read squat about it since then. Cleita Jul 2013 #167

Me either. I was just googling for an update. bunnies Jul 2013 #171

He's a modern day Paul Revere with a thumbdrive full of the news that tyranny is coming arely staircase Jul 2013 #15

^^YES^^ Progressive dog Jul 2013 #23

FTW Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #26

ROFLMAO, too rich! Whisp Jul 2013 #29

LOL! n/t tammywammy Jul 2013 #31

Ringing the bells... FSogol Jul 2013 #35

He can see Russia from his hotel room! flamingdem Jul 2013 #67

indeed he can nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #69

Well he can see the Russian guard at least! flamingdem Jul 2013 #70

Ya Mean... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #111

hahaha oh my BenzoDia Jul 2013 #68

Oh Lawd alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #20

I forsee a tragic, unexplained, unforseeable multiple engine failure in Mr. Snowden's future Azathoth Jul 2013 #22

nothing so sinister arely staircase Jul 2013 #45

I nominate this Thread of the Month. Number23 Jul 2013 #28

I had to stop Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #40

ROFL!! I know!! That one got me too! And Whisp talking about Number23 Jul 2013 #43

Stop it!... HipChick Jul 2013 #49

I nominate this thread for a SNOzy, a new category at DU exclusively flamingdem Jul 2013 #71

Lol! I'm up writing a report... HipChick Jul 2013 #74

Thanks for reminding me. Bonobo Jul 2013 #38

I know, they are the best fundraisers for Wikileaks. I wouldn't have known about it sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #54

Obama's a pretty good fundraiser too... allin99 Jul 2013 #151

I bet Obama is kicking himself now. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #154

The only thing i hope is that he... allin99 Jul 2013 #155

I am sure your contribution to wikileaks hs humbled him nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #156

He certainly might be after the campaign raises their first mil allin99 Jul 2013 #157

I'm sure he thinks of little else nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #158

Me too wtmusic Jul 2013 #191

I believe Journey and STYX are available for the telethon railsback Jul 2013 #44

Maybe they could get Jesse Venture to do one of his rants davidpdx Jul 2013 #63

Shouldn't that be ProSense Jul 2013 #47

LOL Good one ProSense! VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #101

These groupthink exercises are boring. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #48

'Ship of Fools' was taken, no? nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #57

The GOP's booked a cruise for the summer recess. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #79

Yes, it was sunk though after France, Spain, Portugal and Austria jumped aboard sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #88

aka The Flight of the Bunglerbees Whisp Jul 2013 #60

Oh, I see now. That actually makes a heck of a lot of sense now. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #64

Theme Song for the "Flight of Liberty"! Onward! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #66

Theme Song for the Ship of Fools occupied, but sinking fast, by Spain, Portugal, France sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #89

WOW Thank You sabrina~~~~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #92

I'm so glad you like it, I wrote it just for you. The poor puppets, always in the dark sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #108

Morning laugh~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #122

And then, as soon as you donate, expect to be arrested and prosecuted for aiding and abetting, among silvershadow Jul 2013 #73

Drama?...It's a soap opera HipChick Jul 2013 #78

Don't you even feel tempted by a flamingdem Jul 2013 #80

Dang!...I'll never get this report finished tonight... HipChick Jul 2013 #81

No. Only good is the robust discussion of things, things we should have known but didn't. Don't silvershadow Jul 2013 #82

There is nothing to fear but fear itself. People have found ways to donate regardless sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #90

So I guess you must be one of those folks who screams about Gun Regulation VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #103

Another good try sabrina~ sheshe2 Jul 2013 #106

I don't have to be somewhere to be able to empathize. I am not in Iraq but my heart sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #107

+1 and thanks, Sabrina magellan Jul 2013 #110

Just dropping in to say...Thank you for your ongoing efforts, Sabrina. Also, truth2power Jul 2013 #135

Thanks, sabrina 1 bvar22 Jul 2013 #143

Didn't Gerald Ford have a golden retriever named Liberty? winter is coming Jul 2013 #83

OMG! Chevy Chase's impression of Ford calling his stuffed dog Liberty rushed back in to my mind. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #95

LOL, that's probably why I went there, too. winter is coming Jul 2013 #142

Snowden Asylum Bid Leaves a Quandary on Getting There struggle4progress Jul 2013 #109

and not only do they need the money for fuel... allin99 Jul 2013 #153

What an amazing thread! Laelth Jul 2013 #114

Hey, ProSense Jul 2013 #115

Interesting response. Laelth Jul 2013 #117

You ProSense Jul 2013 #119

I don't see the Constitution's defenders laughing at the pro-party/pro-Obama crowd. Laelth Jul 2013 #121

Oh please, ProSense Jul 2013 #123

I value the Democratic Party, and I value having Obama as President. Laelth Jul 2013 #124

No, ProSense Jul 2013 #126

I am missing your point. Laelth Jul 2013 #134

So, CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #144

Hey, Pro. I have to admit that the two threads to which you linked ... Laelth Jul 2013 #147

This is one of those times that you see a split on DU. There are those who wish ill Cleita Jul 2013 #128

You're using a broad brush to draw an incorrect conclusion. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #145

Really you are an expert on painting and brushes as metaphors? Cleita Jul 2013 #148

FACT: You have no proof he will be tortured or killed if arrested by the U.S. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #168

I say there is a good probability considering our past actions with other Cleita Jul 2013 #169

Also this is what Daniel Ellsberger, another whistle blower has to say about this. Cleita Jul 2013 #190

So far, the dude put up a dud and people are laughing. Big deal. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #131

So are our current relations with our allies, thanks to Snowden. aquart Jul 2013 #183

Dress up 20-30 people as zombies. randome Jul 2013 #116

Amazing threaad. I haven't lol'd this hard in a while. BenzoDia Jul 2013 #130

Well this outta be interesting. And since he's already starting with a 55% approval rating... allin99 Jul 2013 #132

If it exists on the Internet, MineralMan Jul 2013 #133

I'd rather send my money to a worthy cause...like the 3 girls that were kidnapped HipChick Jul 2013 #136

Well, I suspect that neither is in his future, really. MineralMan Jul 2013 #137

The intelligence community is not so forgiving.. HipChick Jul 2013 #138

Perhaps. Other leakers of classified materials MineralMan Jul 2013 #139

There was an 'actual hacker' that 'commited suicide' HipChick Jul 2013 #140

I have no idea about either. MineralMan Jul 2013 #141

So..Did Liberty Take off yet..? HipChick Jul 2013 #149

Murdoch wasn't interested in flamingdem Jul 2013 #159

Donald Trump? HipChick Jul 2013 #160

Speculations on Snowden's route, he's got a problem here flamingdem Jul 2013 #163

LOL!! Three Cheers for HipChick for starting this thread!! Number23 Jul 2013 #185

LOL! Fly Liberty! Fly! Unfurl Your Wings for Freedom! Skraxx Jul 2013 #161

If you'd given more they'll give you the Faux Outrage Fur coat! flamingdem Jul 2013 #162

Try putting that on a t-shirt. randome Jul 2013 #170

Shortened T-Shirt Version: Skraxx Jul 2013 #172

+1,000. Fuck Snowden, and FUCK Assange. n/t AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #174

Are we in line for takeoff yet? CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #164

Today has been flamingdem Jul 2013 #166

WikiLeaks sure are a tease... HipChick Jul 2013 #179

Think he lost his shoes at the security checkpoint brooklynite Jul 2013 #182

Damn straight they do! AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #173

I wish they'd start freezing assets of people that support this criminal organization. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #175

I would not be too surprized if that starts to occur HipChick Jul 2013 #180

Sounds like a rimjob appeal... Historic NY Jul 2013 #184

!! Number23 Jul 2013 #186

Fly, Eddie, fly. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #192

I heard he's making an escape by land accompanied by a Wikileaks team flamingdem Jul 2013 #195

Snowden in Moscow: What Russian Authorities Might Be Doing with the NSA Whistleblower Read more: ht flamingdem Jul 2013 #196