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In reply to the discussion: Snowden: I never gave any information to Chinese or Russian governments [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)58. That
"And as we know, the law is never morally wrong."
...makes no sense. You're holding up immoral, unjust laws as if to imply that the law against leaking classified information is "morally wrong."
It wasn't "morally wrong" in the Plame case, and it still isn't. Leaking classified information is a crime, which in some cases constitutes treason.
Edward Snowden broke the law by releasing classified information. This isn't under debate; it's something everyone with a security clearance knows. It's written in plain English on the documents you have to sign when you get a security clearance, and it's part of the culture. The law is there for a good reason, and secrecy has an important role in military defense.
But before the Justice Department prosecutes Snowden, there are some other investigations that ought to happen.
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/06/prosecuting_sno.html
But before the Justice Department prosecutes Snowden, there are some other investigations that ought to happen.
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/06/prosecuting_sno.html
Jimmy Carter on Snowden: "He's obviously violated the laws of America, for which he's responsible."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023119933
Whistleblower protections are in place to protect those who reveal government wrongdoing. Snowden chose to forego the channels that would have afforded him such protections, and fleeing the country didn't help his case, and neither did releasing U.S. state secrets to other countries.
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Snowden: I never gave any information to Chinese or Russian governments [View all]
ProSense
Jul 2013
OP
Well, the Chinese newspaper said they were shown details, including IP addresses.
randome
Jul 2013
#1
Ellsberg broke the law to tell the truth too. But whistleblowers should be punished.
think
Jul 2013
#5
clarification- whistleblowers bring info to Congress first. Leakers do not. From what I've read
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#11
It would make your posts easier to decipher if you would use the 'excerpt' when quoiting people.
RC
Jul 2013
#37
I suppose Snowden never slept, either. Or slept like a baby, assured by Chinese officials
blm
Jul 2013
#32
The why did he go to China and Russia? He could have gone straight to Venezuela.
MjolnirTime
Jul 2013
#35
I don't think Snowden really cares about what does or doesn't help his case. The
Cleita
Jul 2013
#45