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56. They certainly can,

Wed Jul 10, 2013, 11:09 AM

Jul 2013

but with in my experience with juries, they may be very reluctant to convict on the lesser charge when the state has so screwed up a case, as has happened here, IMHO.
But, as I've said several times, you just never know what a jury will do.

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*snicker* Gun-rights activist Adam Kokesh arrested in Herndon [View all] cali Jul 2013 OP

"Come and get me coppers!!!" JoePhilly Jul 2013 #1

Before he was Gun Rights Activist - ANTI-WAR VET of IRAQ!! 7wo7rees Jul 2013 #68

Zimmmerman... Kokesh... Simcox... Nugent... Gun rightists have fucked up posterboys. nt onehandle Jul 2013 #2

Man, do they ever. cali Jul 2013 #3

Because anyone in RKBA has cheered those guys. The hyperbole is sick. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #13

When Zimmerman walks, he'll get to carry a gun again. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #14

And -if- he's found guilty, then he won't. Ain't that grand? Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #16

The problem is that he's going to walk, despite behaving incredibly recklessly geek tragedy Jul 2013 #17

If he walks, it will be more 'ammo' for gun control restrictions. onehandle Jul 2013 #21

Whether or not he'll walk is not in question: What is, is what constitutes lawful defense? Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #22

the problem is that the states with the most permissive gun laws geek tragedy Jul 2013 #26

And that's when you get into a gray area. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #30

I would say that it's less gray than that. Orrex Jul 2013 #46

Okay, let's have a little fun. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #52

If Hitler tries to steal your purse, you have my permission to shoot him Orrex Jul 2013 #58

And there's the rub: Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #64

Fair enough. Look at us being civil! Orrex Jul 2013 #67

I know, right? DU's coming to an end! :P Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #69

This is my favorite gun debate on this site so far BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #71

If he walks, and sadly, it's looking more and more likely, premium Jul 2013 #42

No, the problem is overpermissive self-defense statutes. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #48

I disagree, premium Jul 2013 #51

The jury has the option of convicting on manslaughter. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #54

They certainly can, premium Jul 2013 #56

'This guy getting nabbed is a good thing for us.' onehandle Jul 2013 #20

Outside of DU, who's heard of this guy? Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #23

If no one has heard of him, how is it "a good thing for us?" Orrex Jul 2013 #31

Because people with the potential for lunacy are a threat to anyone associated. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #37

Thoughtful answers. Thank you. (nt) Orrex Jul 2013 #53

My pleasure, and an honor. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #55

Well, I still think you're a lunatic, but you've convinced me about the rest Orrex Jul 2013 #59

Hey, call it like it is: I'm a loon, but I'm a well-meaning loon. :) Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #61

He's a small chip away, I'll give you that. onehandle Jul 2013 #34

Sandy Hook: Forgotten. Zimmerman: Self-Defense. Giffords: Never heard of. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #40

You're still focusing on the present. onehandle Jul 2013 #43

Why? History, and current trends, are in our favor. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #60

Based on that, you must believe that the Republicans will hold the House forever. onehandle Jul 2013 #62

No, but I do believe that America just doesn't jive with the Control angle. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #63

Who is he?? He was once the "The Darling of DU", an Iraq War Vet speaking out against the war... Ghost in the Machine Jul 2013 #75

In my opinion, you shouldn't post that at me, mate. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #76

Aren't you the one who asked "Outside of DU, who's heard of this guy?" ?? The answer is: MILLIONS Ghost in the Machine Jul 2013 #82

Copy, consider it a possibility. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #83

And yet, one of the bluest states in the nation, IL., premium Jul 2013 #44

You guys can't tell time. onehandle Jul 2013 #47

Time will tell, premium Jul 2013 #49

He sure talked a good game before the cops showed-up, didn't he? Ian David Jul 2013 #4

"you can have my gun when you ... JoePhilly Jul 2013 #9

Schedule I and Schedule II drugs? Oops!!! hatrack Jul 2013 #5

This guys even dumber than I thought. bunnies Jul 2013 #29

Yep. Even as someone that is against the criminalization of drugs AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #33

Mushrooms of all things. bunnies Jul 2013 #38

Supposedly, this was "expected". riqster Jul 2013 #41

No kidding. bunnies Jul 2013 #45

Perscription or erhmmmm -- recreational? Either way, this fucknut Kokesh couldn't carry Hunter S. Erose999 Jul 2013 #32

All "responsible" gun owners should applaud this BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #6

Kokesh and LaPierre are the two biggest threats to the right to keep arms out there Recursion Jul 2013 #7

No problem here, he shouldn't have had a gun to begin with. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #12

Thank you both BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #15

-Most- of us are wholely for safety and for lawful restrictions. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #18

There is anger on both sides BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #35

Granted, with a few exceptions. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #50

Let me first say BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #72

I could get into a point by point debate with you, Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #79

I thank you for the best interchange I've ever had with someone pro-gun BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #84

The same to you, mate. You're a Control Freak I could drink with happily. ;) Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #85

Ha! Control Freak, I'm going to use that one BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #86

Be what ya are, brother, and be proud! I'm a gun nut, you're a control freak. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #87

You would think these guys would want crystal meth legal Dash87 Jul 2013 #8

Crystal meth IS legal. Your doctor can prescribe it. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #70

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. HappyMe Jul 2013 #10

If he thinks possession of a gun is an emblem of 'humanity', Aristus Jul 2013 #11

Busted. Now shut the fuck up. nt rrneck Jul 2013 #19

Sounds like somebody has a sad....... rdharma Jul 2013 #27

I could give you a harsh time but I won't. rrneck Jul 2013 #66

Yes, you should have been more clear ....... rdharma Jul 2013 #74

Fairfax County - they have to invent crime there..lot of black helicopter activity too HipChick Jul 2013 #24

That is the best news I've heard today. The helicopter was a nice touch. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #25

Government-1, Molon Labe "team" - 0. bluedigger Jul 2013 #28

More like "Morans" flapping their "labia" . Don't these fuckers know the Spartans lost Thermopalye? Erose999 Jul 2013 #36

But they all looked really hawt in that movie BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #73

He let them take him into custody? He didn't fight back against their tyranny? arcane1 Jul 2013 #39

And the race to be the loudest to disavow him is on! Robb Jul 2013 #57

We know this young man. 7wo7rees Jul 2013 #65

"Gundamentalists" rdharma Jul 2013 #78

Why did you write "snicker." Baitball Blogger Jul 2013 #77

So he can join these MAIG members? krispos42 Jul 2013 #80

They're-ALMOST- all Felons. Half of them have gun charges. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #81

this doofus gets arrested every couple of weeks nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #88

is this different from the last arrest which resulted in canceling that gun rights march ? JI7 Jul 2013 #89

Kokesh's actions may be disruptive and counter-productive, and add little to no petronius Jul 2013 #90