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In reply to the discussion: Greenwald calls USA "lawless, rogue empire" in defense of Snowden [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)22. I guess
"Go and educate yourself on all the things the U.S. does and tell me with a straight face...that the U.S. is not a lawless, rogue empire in the eyes of people in the rest of the world."
...in your eyes that may be true, but I still say Iraq wasn't this President's doing. Greenwald is using the NSA to make these claims, and frankly, that's absurd.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3218825
Which Other Countries Are In Bed With The NSA?
By Hayes Brown
With three of their partners signal intelligence collection programs revealed, its only a matter of time before all eyes turn to two of the most seemingly innocuous members of the world stage: Canada and New Zealand.
<...>
Australia has recently found itself the most recent target of Snowdens cache of documents. Just days ago, the land down unders participation in the NSAs intelligence gathering was splashed across headlines. In the pages of Brazils O Globo newspaper, Glenn Greenwald one journalist who originally received the NSA documents from Snowden catalogued the existence of a series of four NSA listening stations throughout Australia.
What the United States, United Kingdom, and Australia all have in common is joint membership in an organization known colloquially as The Five Eyes. In a 1943 agreement not even officially acknowledged until 2005 and declassified in 2010 the U.S. and Britain agreed to share signal intelligence between themselves and the Dominions of Canada, New Zealand, and Australia. Under the terms of the pact, formally known as the UKUSA Agreement, electronic information collected in the course of espionage can be passed freely among themselves, circumventing the normal controls against foreign sharing that intelligence usually possesses.
For those keeping track, that still leaves two of the Five Eyes participation remaining relatively concealed or at least not the focus of a leak. Thus far, the Communications Security Establishment Canada (CSEC) and New Zealands Government Communications Security Bureau have managed to avoid major scrutiny or revelations about the programs that they operate. Given the new interest in revealing legal cooperation in intelligence sharing, however, its not hard to guess that they might be next.
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http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/07/10/2276191/snowden-five-eyes/
By Hayes Brown
With three of their partners signal intelligence collection programs revealed, its only a matter of time before all eyes turn to two of the most seemingly innocuous members of the world stage: Canada and New Zealand.
<...>
Australia has recently found itself the most recent target of Snowdens cache of documents. Just days ago, the land down unders participation in the NSAs intelligence gathering was splashed across headlines. In the pages of Brazils O Globo newspaper, Glenn Greenwald one journalist who originally received the NSA documents from Snowden catalogued the existence of a series of four NSA listening stations throughout Australia.
What the United States, United Kingdom, and Australia all have in common is joint membership in an organization known colloquially as The Five Eyes. In a 1943 agreement not even officially acknowledged until 2005 and declassified in 2010 the U.S. and Britain agreed to share signal intelligence between themselves and the Dominions of Canada, New Zealand, and Australia. Under the terms of the pact, formally known as the UKUSA Agreement, electronic information collected in the course of espionage can be passed freely among themselves, circumventing the normal controls against foreign sharing that intelligence usually possesses.
For those keeping track, that still leaves two of the Five Eyes participation remaining relatively concealed or at least not the focus of a leak. Thus far, the Communications Security Establishment Canada (CSEC) and New Zealands Government Communications Security Bureau have managed to avoid major scrutiny or revelations about the programs that they operate. Given the new interest in revealing legal cooperation in intelligence sharing, however, its not hard to guess that they might be next.
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http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/07/10/2276191/snowden-five-eyes/
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Using the terms "lawless" and "rogue" while defending Snowden is priceless. nt
arely staircase
Jul 2013
#3
WTH would you do with all the data? You should be concerned about Snowden delivering this info
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
#40
Go and educate yourself on all the things the U.S. does and tell me with a straight face...
AZ Progressive
Jul 2013
#14
Again, I never said anyone but Americans should have any say in the US government
NuclearDem
Jul 2013
#105
Blocking asylum, coercing allies to deny State Heads use of their airspace, secret courts and laws..
dkf
Jul 2013
#9
Shooting down their planes, taking away popsickles, canceling their reservations at Olive Garden
Major Hogwash
Jul 2013
#39
The OP is very new here, and couldn't be expected to know this place.
kenny blankenship
Jul 2013
#27
After the Vietnam War, and US sponsored Central American genocides in 80s-90s, and then Iraq
kenny blankenship
Jul 2013
#84
Greenwald is bad an he hates America. Snowden is ever worse and hates America even more
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#32
He's not a journalist. He's an advocate, and he isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, either.
MADem
Jul 2013
#34
He never claimed to be an objective journalist. He claims to be a journalist with an opinion.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#44
So many attacks on the man here. Attack what you believe is not the truth if you
Cleita
Jul 2013
#87