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In reply to the discussion: Daniel Ellsberg's Downfall: A Trifecta of Shilling, Conspiracy Theories, and Lies - People's View [View all]ucrdem
(15,512 posts)107. Well well well. The Pentagon Papers end at 1967. Nixon was elected in 1968.
So who got fingered by noble leaker Ellsberg's big self-sacrifice? That's right, the LBJ and Kennedy administrations. Also McNamara who apparently initiated the study as a warning to future presidents against similar debacles. Tricky Dick it seems got a free pass:
The Pentagon Papers, officially titled United States Vietnam Relations, 19451967: A Study Prepared by the Department of Defense, is a United States Department of Defense history of the United States' political-military involvement in Vietnam from 1945 to 1967. The papers were first brought to the attention of the public on the front page of The New York Times in 1971.[1] A 1996 article in The New York Times said that the Pentagon Papers "demonstrated, among other things, that the Lyndon Baines Johnson Administration had systematically lied, not only to the public but also to Congress, about a subject of transcendent national interest and significance".[2] The report was declassified and publicly released in June 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers
And now Ellsberg is swiftboating another Democratic president for all he's worth, which fortunately isn't much. Funny how that works, isn't it?
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Daniel Ellsberg's Downfall: A Trifecta of Shilling, Conspiracy Theories, and Lies - People's View [View all]
flamingdem
Jul 2013
OP
Could you link to an example of Alex Jones, Rand Paul type of material?
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#61
Says the guy that spends 99% of his posts trying to hijack the topic and make it about gay marriage.
phleshdef
Jul 2013
#13
Oh, so advocacy for equality bothers you, and semi pornographic comments about auto erotic
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#18
No. Hijacking topics that have nothing to do with the topic of equality bothers me.
phleshdef
Jul 2013
#24
So stop Hijacking this thread. You should link when you accuse you are utterly mischaracterizing
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#29
Well you hijacked this thread with 'auto fellatio' comments, and that was not the first such post of
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#46
What I notice is that the OP does not respond at all, instead a tight group of others come
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#36
Did it ever occur to you that maybe the OP hasn't been back to his/her computer in the past few hrs?
phleshdef
Jul 2013
#43
Of course. Did it ever occur to you that the OP might be the author of the blog posted?
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#48
Hyperboblic mendacity. Prove your assertion if you can. You can't, so you won't.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#32
I have tremendous respect for anyone who can self-fellate and still accomplish anything. n/t
hootinholler
Jul 2013
#79
i've noticed that when people have no real argument, they turn to personal remarks & armchair
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#41
That particular one rarely (maybe never?) contributes more than empty snark. (no text)
Quantess
Jul 2013
#89
Who is this mediocre McCarthyite you are quoting? Front Group? Seriously? Does he know what
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#6
This OP poster never responds but the same set of 'volunteers' responds for him.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#25
Your speculation on someone's privacy--i.e., the OP's identity, is quite ironic in a Snowden thread.
msanthrope
Jul 2013
#27
After a day of researching irony, it looks like she or he has come up empty.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#123
Again with this extremist website, which is often the source of anti-left propaganda. The author
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#28
The other day I had one of these conservative "dems" answer me with a link to heritage.org
Dragonfli
Jul 2013
#139
Snowden/Greenwald opponents had been trying not to smear Ellsberg, an American hero
Blue Bike
Jul 2013
#58
This has to be among the most shameless posts I've ever seen on DU . . .
markpkessinger
Jul 2013
#68
I need a shower and lots of soap. I just sifted through that pile of dog shit blog
cali
Jul 2013
#73
You forgot the "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of....?" part.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2013
#75
Two weeks before the Nov. 2012 election, Ellsberg called for Obama's IMPEACHMENT:
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#82
Brother CATO and brother RAND backing brother Booz-Allen, now there's a surprise
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#86
Yet, in the same article, he's urging people in swing states to vote for him.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jul 2013
#96
He makes it crystal clear that "I don't support Obama" and he "does not intend to vote for" him. nt
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#105
Everyone who criticizes the intelligence services turns out to be real creeps - every time!
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#100
Well Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzales have been right-wing shills for a long time
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#103
"Well Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzales have been right-wing shills for a long time"
marmar
Jul 2013
#126
In Feb1971 Ellsberg discussed the study with NYT Excerpts started being published on Jun 13, 1971
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#109
Nixon won reelection in 1972 with the fourth-largest margin of victory in history
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#110
C'mon, Douglas. Think really really really hard and you too can find bliss
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#119
actually Daniel Elllsberg campaigned night and day for McGovern in 1972
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#120
Have you read the comments? They even mock Meteor Blades from DKos. This is full-on right wing BS!
FourScore
Jul 2013
#125
There was a good reason why Spanden C (author of the linked article) was banned from Kos.
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#133
Wow, the author is an idiot and their wording shows their obvious bias/hatred. Just dumb.
The Straight Story
Jul 2013
#150
So now we link to right wing rag sites here on DU and attempt to lend credibility to their BS?
NorthCarolina
Jul 2013
#152