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Scootaloo

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52. Your post reminds me of something...
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:26 AM
Jul 2013

Up in Canada, in the Maritime provinces, a lot of people made their living by fishing - cod, mostly. And it was profitable businesses, subsidied by the government , and with a seeming never-ending demand. More people fished, took bigger catches, more frequently. In 1970, the take was eight hundred thousand tons of north atlantic cod. If you're unfamiliar with cod, they're a large coldwater predator fish - they're slow-growing, live to be thirteen years old, and in warmer waters (relatively speaking) reach sexual maturity at four years.

What happens when you're sucking eight hundred thousand tons of a slow-growing, late-maturing fish out of the water annually?

By 1992, the biomass of cod in the Atlantic Northwest had crashed to less than 1% of its previous levels. The Canadian government declared a moratorium on cod fishing until the fisheries could rejuvenate. It was supposed to last only two years. Now, twenty years later... the fishery is still collapsed. And you know who or what gets the blame?

Seals. That's right, the governments of Labrador and Newfoundland both opened up seal hunting with the claim that it was necessary to prevent the seals from eating all those damned cod and crashing the fisheries again. That's right, it was those fucking seals that caused the problem. Of course there were dissident voices, blaming everything from disease to global warming to some sort of cod migration... but there was never an official voice pointing out that the fishing industry of Canada had demolished its own stock, and that Canadian subsidization of the industry had helped lead to that result. Blame the seals, blame the warmer water, blame mystery causes, blame UFO's if you have to, just don't blame the fact that we were trawling in a third of the species' biomass in the North Atlantic every two years.

Now, what the fuck does a codfish have to do with the film industry? Well, for one I'm pretty sure that a codfish would be a better comedy lead than Vince Vaughn. But that's not my point.

The point is that the film industry is currently destroying itself, and blaming some meager pissant outside force with next to no practical impact for all its woes. Am I going to watch a pirated copy of "The Internship?" Fuck no. Am I going to watch a pirated copy of "After earth?" Fuck no. Am I going to watch a pirated copy of "The Lone Ranger?" Fuck no. And it's not that I have some ethical qualm against it, I'm looking at a site right now where I could click a link and watch any of these filmed for my convenience from within a theater, as I type.

I'm not going to watch pirated copies of these films because I already know they are shit. And if I won't watch them for free, what force on earth is going to get me to plunk down money - and lots of money, at that - to watch them once in a theater full of assholes who can't shut the fuck up? Am I going to fork over the dough to watch another installment of licensing hackery trying to remind me that I was born in the 80's? Or to watch another sad, sad attempt at an "epic" film, like the travesty that was Clash of the Titans? (though that one did bring us "Release the kraken!" which was good for a lol or two...) I admit i did get suckered into a theater showing of World War Z... but only because I wanted to know exactly how fucking abysmal it really was (as it turns out? Very. )

Hollywood is churning out formulaic drek with every turn of the reel. It imagines that the market is wowed by star power - that putting Brad Pitt or Will Smith on the poster will make us forgive that we're watching a celluloid version of amoebic dysentery. It imagines that we're frightened and unsure of original ideas - that we're uncomfortable with something hat isn't exactly like the last film we watched. The industry keeps selling us different-colored version of That Movie You Love - and doesn't notice we caught on to that trick back in the 90's and haven't been falling for it very often since.

Essentially, the market is responding to a low-quality product at a high price by not purchasing. That's what's giving the pinch to the industry - It's not those dastardly priates, it's not video rental businesses, and it's not the VCR. It's the industry's own inability to respond to the market.

Take for instance, "Avatar." Avatar, though it had a trite story, was still a good movie. It was well-sculpted, explored several concepts that, while not especially unique (it's sci-fi Pocahontas, or an environmentalist version of The Matrix, take your pick) happened to hit the right buttons, at the right time, and through use of a largely-unexplored medium. That is, while it didn't invent, it did innovate, and it managed to mesh with the audience's own desires and immerse them.. As a result, it's the highest-grossing film of all time. How did the industry respond?

By re-releasing movies that had been dolled up for 3-D glasses, and funding sweeping CGI "epics" one after the other, in such profusion that 2010 kind of felt like a year without actors. That is, Hollywood missed the whole fucking point of what made Avatar work, and simply took bits and pieces and glued them on to other scripts in the hope that it would "catch."

it didn't work. It hasn't worked since, and I'll bet you that it won't work in the future. And the self-inflicted blindness isn't helping any. By flailing around like a one-eyed goatherd after meeting Odysseus, blaming absolutely everyone except itself for its shitty sales, Hollywood is just further alienating the customer base. Most people would be perfectly happy to pay some money for a theater entry, or for a DVD, if we felt we were getting our money's worth - and given the current state of the economy, we value the money we have more than we used to. People who won't watch a shitty product on the silver screen probably aren't going to watch a shitty product that looks like it was filmed by a potato, even if it's offered for free.

If your friends and family are feeling the pinch, I assure you it's more due to the problems of the industry itself, than the seals nibbling around the net's fringes.

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Germans illuminate message on US embassy [View all] Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 OP
Merkel rejects Stasi comparisons and defends data interception Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #1
Yah, but...Merkel is a good German. HereSince1628 Jul 2013 #69
Of course she would, there have been some questions about her own background sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #74
Good one! Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #2
You do know who that slob pictured on the slide is? MADem Jul 2013 #10
Oh, because that's what's important in this story Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #14
You are showing your complete lack of knowledge with your response to me. MADem Jul 2013 #18
Thanks for proving my point Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #25
I didn't prove your point. You didn't understand the issue. nt MADem Jul 2013 #28
Cloud storage is not theft of intellectual property. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #20
Please--when what's in the "cloud" are movies that haven't been released to DVD yet, MADem Jul 2013 #29
You'd find the same on YouTube, for instance. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #30
It did not "incidentally happen to use his face." He was IN ON IT. MADem Jul 2013 #33
See it your own way. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #37
I'll "see it" based on the picture of the bootlegger projected on the building. MADem Jul 2013 #40
I did better than that MADem, I went to his Twitter page Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #43
Really? What did you see that was "different?" You're saying he didn't steal intellectual property? MADem Jul 2013 #46
Um... Who gives a shit about downloaded movies? leeroysphitz Jul 2013 #90
1992 called and wants their "Blah blah called and wants blah blah back" line back... MADem Jul 2013 #91
you can haz all my copyritz? lol.. nt galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #96
What, no Nazi references? Those would get that assclown arrested! MADem Jul 2013 #3
NPR too which I added for your acceptance Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #4
I've no doubt NPR copied it from RT... MADem Jul 2013 #6
Are you being sarcastic? Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #8
That's not what I said--but good "dense" (your word, own it) interpretation. MADem Jul 2013 #12
he's protected by Godwin's Law markiv Jul 2013 #5
You can't say that "N" word in Germany--they'll arrest you in "Stasi-like" fashion. MADem Jul 2013 #7
they try to stamp out nazi-dom, with a nazi jack boot markiv Jul 2013 #15
It isn't illegal to say the word Nazi in Germany. It's illegal to be a Nazi Solly Mack Jul 2013 #75
I think they use that "Stasi" word as a sneaky substitute, for the purposes of insulting people... MADem Jul 2013 #80
Jesus Christ, that is not Godwin's Law. How many times must I explain this? Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #11
And it's not a law, but that doesn't matter when you're tasked with trying to defend Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #17
actually its an internet meme that needs pictures galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #97
As Germans they should have more respect for the people who suffered under the Stasi Californeeway Jul 2013 #9
That sloppy guy on the slide is mad because the "STASI" don't want him stealing MADem Jul 2013 #13
Well let's see... there's MKultra, Cointelpro, and this guy from my neighborhood Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #22
the comparison is still hyperbole Californeeway Jul 2013 #36
"But when you claim that we are in a police state" Really? Where did I say that? Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #38
This whole "I didn't say that" is typical hackneyed debate tactic BS Californeeway Jul 2013 #47
I'll say it Scootaloo Jul 2013 #57
And you said it very eloquently, indeed! Divernan Jul 2013 #61
I can appreciate and respect your ability to say it and stand by it. Californeeway Jul 2013 #68
Regarding the president... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #70
+ + byeya Jul 2013 #72
Excellent post. woo me with science Jul 2013 #79
Who are you to say "what gets used way too often around here"? Divernan Jul 2013 #62
more or less the assumptions you make about me are way off Californeeway Jul 2013 #64
The post is about pertinent hyperbole PATRICK Jul 2013 #73
9/11/2001 Guantanamo detention camp 2002 Progressive dog Jul 2013 #116
you're correct in part temmer Jul 2013 #32
the data collection has scared the shit out of me since I heard about it Californeeway Jul 2013 #39
My sig is a quote from a former Stasi colonel. Pholus Jul 2013 #59
Hey, the Stasi wasn't intercepting my phone calls here in the USA back in the day Fumesucker Jul 2013 #67
Ahh, pious lectures to foreigners that they're not using their own history in a way you like... (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2013 #87
It came out of artist own pocket Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #16
Kim Dotcom, defender of freedom....NOT. MADem Jul 2013 #19
Not a fan of piracy I see. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #21
If I were an actor, producer, director, key grip, makeup artist, best boy, craft services provider, MADem Jul 2013 #24
People who pirate are generally those who could not afford it anyway. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #26
Naaaah--because this guy charges a fee. MADem Jul 2013 #27
Your post reminds me of something... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #52
I don't disagree that much of what Hollywood churns out is dreck, but I'll also bet that MADem Jul 2013 #56
You fail to grasp the point of the analogy Scootaloo Jul 2013 #66
Of course it's not the "primary" loss leader, but it is one--and for you to compare it to a seal is MADem Jul 2013 #81
yeah...let's attack the messenger ***yawn*** temmer Jul 2013 #34
Yes, because the messenger has been indicted for intellectual property theft. YAWN... nt MADem Jul 2013 #48
I can hear the Church Choir already. Outraged lectures to the Germans coming in 4,3,2,1... Catherina Jul 2013 #23
"I have a relative from East Germany and HE says...." sibelian Jul 2013 #31
The NSA has gathered more information, renditioned more people, than the Stasi ever did Catherina Jul 2013 #42
A stasi comparison is quite valid, according to a loyalist's own post Divernan Jul 2013 #44
Thank you Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #45
Exactly. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Jul 2013 #53
Hoisted, indeed. Thank you. woo me with science Jul 2013 #54
Another one today Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #71
Thank you for posting this. nt woo me with science Jul 2013 #77
You can't even debate me directly, perhaps to escape rebuttal? Californeeway Jul 2013 #63
Hit a nerve, didn't I? Divernan Jul 2013 #65
The Stasi comparison is appropriate temmer Jul 2013 #78
"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser" Catherina Jul 2013 #111
+100000 "If you don't want to be compared to the Stasi, quit acting like it." woo me with science Jul 2013 #49
My personal favourite Choir Hymn "it's disrespectful to REAL victims of ....". One word - Hypocrites idwiyo Jul 2013 #60
Yep. "How dare they invoke their experiences in a way that makes us uncomfortable?!" (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2013 #88
If they're that worried about disprespecting REAL victims, they can address Guantanamo Catherina Jul 2013 #113
That's a stupid fucking insult to those who suffered Cha Jul 2013 #35
Ahem. woo me with science Jul 2013 #51
I've visited a Stasi (not staTsi) prison camp Divernan Jul 2013 #55
Except that the Patriot Act didn't disturb habeas corpus, the right to be publicly accused, geek tragedy Jul 2013 #82
Patriot Act, expanded byMilitary Commissions Act,National Defense Authorization Act & SCOTUS Divernan Jul 2013 #84
Derp Someone didn't read Hamdan vs Rumsfeld. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #85
That was 2006 - try to keep up. Divernan Jul 2013 #92
Yes, and the NDAA explicitly states that it doesn't change the law regarding detainee geek tragedy Jul 2013 #93
YOU brought up Hamden v. Rumsfeld; I don't rely on it. Divernan Jul 2013 #94
I'm saying Hamdan v Rumsfeld disproves your entire argument. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #95
The law doesn't work the way you think it does. Divernan Jul 2013 #98
You're aware that Congress can't overrule a constitutional ruling by the SCOTUS, right? geek tragedy Jul 2013 #101
I'm the retired law professor & you're not Divernan Jul 2013 #106
A retired law professor who can't read a statute. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #107
You get A for persistence; F for legal knowledge/reasoning Divernan Jul 2013 #108
Nope, I just had much better professors than you when I attended law school. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #109
Well you better tell Obama, cause that's not the way he sees it. Divernan Jul 2013 #112
Too much misinformation to debunk from geek tragedy Jul 2013 #115
Oh the irony - that should leave a mark malaise Jul 2013 #41
It's a stupid insult to those who did suffer under the German Cha Jul 2013 #100
I'm an Obama fan but I don't support malaise Jul 2013 #103
Yes, I know, malaise.. the real German Stasi.. Cha Jul 2013 #105
Well your Fundie neighbors are watching you now malaise Jul 2013 #110
Don't have any fundy neighbors thank Goodness.. but, I see your Cha Jul 2013 #114
Hilter, Stasi and Stalin -- the Hair of Fire Trifecta DontTreadOnMe Jul 2013 #58
These germans... Accusing the NSA of Stasi tactics without asking our permission first! Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #76
Germans have every right to make idiotic comparisons to their own past. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #83
Evidently, they can insult those who did suffer under the German Stasi and Cha Jul 2013 #104
Oh dear! Rex Jul 2013 #86
Absurd. n/t Blackford Jul 2013 #89
That looks like a really Shankapotomus Jul 2013 #99
How idiotic BainsBane Jul 2013 #102
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