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In reply to the discussion: Ellsberg has said that Obama should be impeached (updated) [View all]"He's worse than Nixon, but impeach is a bit extreme."
...that's not hyperbole.
Nixons Counsel Says Obama Is No Nixon
The current slate of controversies consuming the White Hosue has some people comparing President Barack Obama to former President Richard Nixon, but a former top Nixon aide thinks that's ridiculous.
John Dean, who served as White House counsel under the disgraced former president, said that anyone applying the Nixonian label to Obama due is "challenged in their understanding of history." There's no legitimate comparison, Dean argued, between the Internal Revenue Service's improper targeting of conservative groups, the Department of Justice's subpoena of Associated Press phone records or the investigation into the dealy attack in Benghazi, Libya and the scandals that ultimately led to Nixon's undoing.
There are no comparisons. Theyre not comparable with any of the burgeoning scandals, Dean told the Boston Globe.
Dean was present in the Oval Office when Nixon suggested using the IRS to target his foes.
Obama on Thursday urged people to "read the history" and decide for themselves if the Nixon comparison is approrpiate. Famed journalist Bob Woodward on Friday said that it's premature to compare the IRS scandal to Watergate, but he invoked Nixon's name when discussing Benghazi.
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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/nixons-counsel-says-obama-is-no-nixon
The current slate of controversies consuming the White Hosue has some people comparing President Barack Obama to former President Richard Nixon, but a former top Nixon aide thinks that's ridiculous.
John Dean, who served as White House counsel under the disgraced former president, said that anyone applying the Nixonian label to Obama due is "challenged in their understanding of history." There's no legitimate comparison, Dean argued, between the Internal Revenue Service's improper targeting of conservative groups, the Department of Justice's subpoena of Associated Press phone records or the investigation into the dealy attack in Benghazi, Libya and the scandals that ultimately led to Nixon's undoing.
There are no comparisons. Theyre not comparable with any of the burgeoning scandals, Dean told the Boston Globe.
Dean was present in the Oval Office when Nixon suggested using the IRS to target his foes.
Obama on Thursday urged people to "read the history" and decide for themselves if the Nixon comparison is approrpiate. Famed journalist Bob Woodward on Friday said that it's premature to compare the IRS scandal to Watergate, but he invoked Nixon's name when discussing Benghazi.
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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/nixons-counsel-says-obama-is-no-nixon
Both as a rhetorical question and a real question Im curious just what Ellsberg means by that. His basic argument is that he was able to stay out on bail and that wouldnt have been an option for Snowden. On the other hand, the White House at the time was running a special operations team against Ellsberg out of the White House, including breaking into his psychiatrists office and at least some discussions of having him killed. So Im not sure we can call those the glory days.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023198589
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If some of these infallible characters they worship were ever elected to office
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#2
You nailed it. People yearn for infallible heroes to follow without question
Californeeway
Jul 2013
#7
Obama traded off raising taxes on the rich so he could get DADT overturned....NOT!
Left_Is_Right
Jul 2013
#128
With 33 posts what do you know about "DU's world of black and white moral clarity"?
boston bean
Jul 2013
#98
the Constitution is such a ridiculous pet issue - why is ANYONE the least bit bothered about it?
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#18
The folks stealing food off the table are the ones Ellsberg and others here are attacking.
Waiting For Everyman
Jul 2013
#22
Not a traitor. Just someone who throws the word 'impeach' around too loosely. n/t
Scurrilous
Jul 2013
#31
He can talk all he wants, if the repukes can't get a super-majority in Congress next year
Amonester
Jul 2013
#80
Two things: When did 51.1% become a "landslide", and why do you make this about President Obama?
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#20
You didn't post this because you're worried a whit about what Daniel Ellsberg thinks and you know it
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2013
#34
So you *are* saying it's a popularity contest; and that a popular pres can get away with illegality
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2013
#97
Democracies generally are. Of course, the extreme left's fantasy of coup by
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#101
I am more disturbed that Obama didn't go after bush for his crimes and locked out single payer folks
The Straight Story
Jul 2013
#55
The day thay most of DU wants to impeach President Obama is the day I pack up my gold star and...
Walk away
Jul 2013
#118
Like arguing with Birthers, who also claim it's all about the constitution. nt
geek tragedy
Jul 2013
#110
Obama ordered his "plumbers" to break into DNC headquarters and then lied about it?
ucrdem
Jul 2013
#95
"I believe we have impeachable offenses by all of the people arguing this case."
Zorra
Jul 2013
#137