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HolyMoley

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19. Self defense means SELF DEFENSE

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:17 AM

Jul 2013

The defense team has never denied, or challenged the fact that Zimmerman shot and killed Martin; that's an inescapable and a forgone conclusion.

From the beginning, O'mera and company have maintained that their client acted out of reasonable fear for his life. The prosecution was tasked with refuting that... that Zimmerman was never in any danger, and/or acted with disproportionate force.

To date, the prosecution has failed in proving their case beyond a reasonable doubt.

The argument of not guilty by reason of self defense apples equally to a charge of 2nd degree murder, manslaughter, or any lessor charges.

If the jury clears Zimmerman of the more elevated crime of 2nd degree murder, by logic, they have to clear him of any lessor charges.

It's all going to come down to the jury deciding if self defense was applicable in this situation.

Zimmerman will either be found not guilty of all charges, or end up in a hung jury.

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The Zimmerman Trial Will End With... [View all] OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 OP

Not justice, certainly..... Rowdyboy Jul 2013 #1

Him walking away, but his life changed forever. tblue Jul 2013 #2

Reminds me of Joran van der Sloot.. HipChick Jul 2013 #3

Ok. Gotta google that one. tblue Jul 2013 #5

Pretty much. And OJ Simpson Warpy Jul 2013 #6

Same thing happened to O.J., premium Jul 2013 #14

Villified MattBaggins Jul 2013 #17

most likely a not guilty verdict rollin74 Jul 2013 #4

..another scenario OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 #9

riots olddots Jul 2013 #7

I hope not OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 #8

I doubt it, premium Jul 2013 #15

overwhelming force only increases the rioting giving the populace more reasons to riot. TeamPooka Jul 2013 #29

Don't count on it, premium Jul 2013 #31

I hope there are legitimate protests but no riots. If he walks, but I hope he gets convicted. TeamPooka Jul 2013 #32

Legitimate protests? Absolutely, premium Jul 2013 #33

Explain to us why there will be riots MattBaggins Jul 2013 #18

I'll take a shot OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 #25

I dunno at this point, sadly. AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #10

A hung jury nolabels Jul 2013 #11

I think a hung jury is likely because the jury is afraid razorman Jul 2013 #13

That might even be a bigger factor nolabels Jul 2013 #21

In this order: Quantess Jul 2013 #12

It would be interesting to see two polls like this Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #16

Self defense means SELF DEFENSE HolyMoley Jul 2013 #19

Yeah, but you are using logic. OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 #23

the lessor included charge of Manslaughter, and he won't draw much of a sentence either, 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #20

I think how long they are out will depend on several factors OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 #22

it is a 6 person jury made up of all female jurors TeamPooka Jul 2013 #30

Thanks! OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 #34

I think manslaughter is unlikely Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #27

Pudding. The Zimmerman trial will end with pudding. Electric Monk Jul 2013 #24

Pudding seems like a great option OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 #26

It's gone to the jury. OmahaBlueDog Jul 2013 #28