Drone plane manufacturing industry is writing the legislation that governs their use in the US

[Peace Patriot]

30. i think you underestimate the motive of billions of dollars of profit...

...and don't understand the confluence of government and monstrous, transglobal corporations and war profiteers that has occurred.

The privatization of government has brought with it the corporate culture of secrecy, contempt for the law, evasion of the law, "buying" the law (privateers actually writing the law), LYING to the public, fleecing the public, looting "the commons," and contempt for democracy and the public good. In this context, literally anything is possible, as to cabals within the government/corporate complex bent on barely legal or outright illegal, criminal profiteering, of the million dollar (small) or trillion dollar (mindbogglingly large) variety. We see this almost everywhere we look in 'government,' where the public gaze can penetrate the thicket (and there's a whole lot that we can't see, that has been deliberately obscured, or that are only "tips of the iceberg" of cabalistic profiteering). Ever read/hear an analysis of the private USAID 'contractors' in Afghanistan (or South America, for that matter)? Jeez. Aren't you even suspicious as to how Blackwater became Xe, or how Halliburton got refinanced and moved its headquarters to the United Arab Emirates?

We are talking BIG LOOTERS, and a whole lot of "smaller" looters who are beholden to the most powerful cabals within and surrounding our government. These looters require secrecy and often bewildering complexity as cover for their crimes. I'll give you just one example. A USAID private contractor got a million dollar government contract to assist farmers in Afghanistan in converting from growing poppies to growing food crops. FIFTY PERCENT of that million dollars went to maintaining corporate lobbying offices in DC (to keep churning out new contract applications). TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT went to establishing luxurious, secure digs in Afghanistan for the corporation's U.S. personnel. And nobody knows what happened to the remaining 25%--but it was likely doled out to the local Karzai mafia to use for patronage and ended up supporting the illegal drug trade!

I don't think you have any idea how corrupt our government has become and how infested with the corporate 'culture' (private profit first, last and always--and the public good and the law be damned).

I also don't know where you get the notion that "government agencies keep it simple." Ever do your own taxes? Ever try to navigate the Medicare prescription drug program, for yourself or a loved one?

The bewildering complexity of government, these days, requires high priced accountants, high priced lawyers and other high priced specialists to navigate, and embedded in those government/corporate complexities is the potential for a vast amount of private profiteering (for instance, evasion of taxes) and crimes against humanity (private profiteering off the elderly poor, the disabled and the sick, with the privatization and looting of Medicare).

You wonder why we don't have single payer health care? Because it's TOO SIMPLE. Simple = honest, aboveboard and trackable. You wonder why we don't have citizens counting our votes in the public venue any more, and instead have one, private, far rightwing connected corporation--ES&S, which bought out Diebold--controlling 80% of the vote counts in the U.S. with 'TRADE SECRET' code--code that the public is forbidden to review? Because public vote counting means that you can SEE fraud, when it occurs, and have a chance to prevent it or expose it. And as for complexity, we had one Diebold advocate within government, in California, who actually SAID that a citizen advocate who was criticizing Diebold "is no expert." The citizen was, in fact, an expert on computers and programming. But no matter, the point was that ORDINARY people CAN'T UNDERSTAND a system run on computer code and should therefore shut the fuck up.

Do you have any idea how the conversion of our vote counting system from the public to the private venue has opened us up to cabals within that the government/corporate system, who might not have our best interests at heart, when they 'count' our votes with 'TRADE SECRET' code?

So, give me a break. Cabals are obviously at work. There are OBVIOUSLY conspiracies of every kind to loot our government, to loot us, to abolish our human and civil rights, and to turn government into an entity "of, by and for" the fascisti (the rich, the corporate and the bloodyminded) whose hallmark has ever been SECRECY and other methods of wrongful control including violence.

I have NOT constructed a "typical conspiracy theory" or any kind of "conspiracy theory." I have laid out some FACTS and discussed what I SMELL in those facts--something not right, too much coincidence, possible foul play with a profit purpose--a bothersome, intriguing set of events that I think needs further investigation. Possibly there is no link among these violent events that occurred within 10 days of each other and no link between any two. Another possibility is that foul play for profit was committed in each individual case (especially Wheeler and Turnot) with motives and perpetrators entirely unrelated to each other. I don't know. I said that. And, by the way, I used the word "tinfoil" facetiously. Anybody who tries to link anything to anything--who tries to penetrate the darkness of our very, VERY secretive "government/corporate complex"--is accused of "tinfoil" (insane paranoia). Thus, we are supposed to stand stupidly before foul play, violence, war and vast profiteering, and, indeed, the end of our democracy, and never connect one dot with another on our road to perdition!

You dismiss 9/11 investigators with a Freeper word, "Truthers." Did you ever look into the facts that such investigators have uncovered?

As with the facts that I've laid out, on the events in that ten-day period--Dec. 31, 2010 to Jan. 10, 2011--you don't seem interested in facts, only in a generalized put-down of anyone who has some facts to present. Your stance is that, because government agencies promote "simplicity" (and where you get that from, I don't know), no complex conspiracy or complex covering of asses is possible. Yours is the unreasonable view, not mine.

I wonder what you think of the S&L scandal, the Enron scandal, and the COMPLEX mortgage heist followed by the bankster bailout. You think that our "simple" government agencies were just innocently standing by, while these great crimes occurred? You think the perps were restricted to those few who got caught and got jettisoned by the "powers that be"? You may be that simple, but our corporate-run government is not. Government enabled those crimes in every case, and the powerful people who did that enabling, and most of the profiteers, are still running around free. WHO de-regulated the S&Ls? Hm? You see any of them in jail?

The same with all the other ground work that has been done, by powerful politicians and the powerful lawyers and lobbyists for the very rich, who conspire to loot us blind, to raid "the commons," to destroy good government, to hijack our military for horribly unjust corporate resource wars and to commit crime after crime for profit: the two entities--government and corporations--work intimately together, in complex ways, to impoverish the rest of us and to use the law for their own purposes.

Cabals and conspiracies abound in these abominable circumstances! We can hardly keep up with how many ways we are being looted and our democracy destroyed, nor with the complex rivalries and "wars" within the rampant cabals and conspiracies around us. (Ever wonder how/why Rumsfeld got ousted?) (Hint: Big internal war between the CIA and the Pentagon.) So much is hidden from us! We really have no idea how Bush Jr. got into the White House in the first place, for instance. (You really think that there was no cabal that subverted the Supreme Court? The judges just "honestly" thought that stopping the count of a Gore win in Florida was a good idea?) (Are you familiar with the Associated Press study that said that Gore won, published on 9/12/01?) To be "anti-conspiracy theory" is to promote stupidity, in my opinion. 'Never look at the facts yourself, just accept what you are told.' Not good. Thus cabals and conspiracies have free reign, untroubled by nosey citizens.