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allin99

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53. i get the feeling if he's dead...
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:44 PM
Jul 2013

it will be so dark that i think people will stay away from the issue. Not the people are are really anti extended surveillance. i mean the fence sitters or the more quietly approving types. It gives you that dark feeling that makes you want to just forget it and shut your mouth.

If he's dead, the pro nsa people here will be happy and it will be easier for them to claim some sort of victory, and squash any idea of civil liberties and the nsa, while the anti-nsa'ers here will probably stick with the aclu and keep up the argument. but i wonder in the public. i think it's better if he lives.

i'm hoping it's only the dems here that are more pro surveillance than against. i went to a fundraiser last night for a dem candidate, people wren't really talking about it b/c it's sort of taboo at the moment among gov't officials. Although it was a liberal candidate, so no doubt were we have talked about it i'm sure they would be more pro aclu argument. I only deal with liberal dems for the most part though, so i don't know about this anti aclu shit. lol. But with the public,i think the darkness would have an effect. And not a good one. (well, not good for the anti extended surveillance crowd)

(on a personal level, i would find it quite sad, esp. because i'm glad that he forced clapper to come out, and he forced the conversation in the public in general). And personally, i'd much rather root for him than the U.S. gov't storing all my data (METADATA), etc.

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Here's my halfassed theory!!! MADem Jul 2013 #1
Well, it's either we or the Russians who took or killed him... allin99 Jul 2013 #2
If it was us, I think Pootie Poot would be screaming from the rooftops about our heavy ham hands! MADem Jul 2013 #13
or the CIA got him out of there days/weeks ago. Whisp Jul 2013 #3
that's the thing though, he *not* communicating.. allin99 Jul 2013 #4
When was the last time he was heard from? Whisp Jul 2013 #5
i wanna say the last time was... allin99 Jul 2013 #8
We haven't seen his face with his lips moving since Hong Kong. That IS strange. nt MADem Jul 2013 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author allin99 Jul 2013 #16
Hong Kong. He hasn't been seen since then, not even on the flight he was Cleita Jul 2013 #11
yeah. i think dead. :( allin99 Jul 2013 #12
He might not have spent any time at the airport--he might be here.... MADem Jul 2013 #23
I did a post about this last week and suggested the same thing. Cleita Jul 2013 #34
Actually, this article says he met with reporters in Russia... allin99 Jul 2013 #15
I didn't see that. But it also begs the question why didn't they take some photos. Cleita Jul 2013 #17
turns out the article is a prank. allin99 Jul 2013 #21
Figures. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #22
That, I am afraid, is an unfunny joke article. MADem Jul 2013 #27
Did you see the posh hotel he was staying at while in Hong Kong? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #6
He was at the Mandarin--very nice, on the Kowloon side! MADem Jul 2013 #30
Or he's in jail somewhere in either China or Russia and held incommunicado. Cleita Jul 2013 #7
That settles it...CIA or Russians have him...Assange is grandstanding HipChick Jul 2013 #9
Maybe he has his headphones on and can't hear the phone ringing. n/t Scurrilous Jul 2013 #10
Or the wind is whistling in his ears. randome Jul 2013 #19
if he is dead, then I wonder what happened to the Wikileaks woman. n/t Whisp Jul 2013 #18
She's disappeared off the radar too. There were some articles in British papers about her Cleita Jul 2013 #20
thanks for the name - Sarah Harrison. Whisp Jul 2013 #24
i'm not sure why but i feel like... allin99 Jul 2013 #25
She is also well known as a "former lover" of Assange... MADem Jul 2013 #31
Both her sisters live in Hong Kong... Whisp Jul 2013 #36
They might have provided the "crash pad" for awhile... nt MADem Jul 2013 #40
Or maybe crickets. Our side doesn't want this to make them look bad either. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #35
If he's dead, whose purpose is Greenwald serving relaying "messages" from him? CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #26
They are spy wannabes playing spy games. randome Jul 2013 #28
Perhaps GG doesn't want to admit he's been "tooled?" MADem Jul 2013 #32
Probably smart. Turbineguy Jul 2013 #29
Maybe he doesn't want to go to Venezuela hack89 Jul 2013 #33
he would still have contacted. Esp after... allin99 Jul 2013 #38
Rumor on twitter last night said that Snowden's dad is negotiating for his return flamingdem Jul 2013 #37
'Snowdad'. Is there a 'Snowmom'? I don't recall hearing anything about his mother. randome Jul 2013 #39
Looks like mom doesn't like the media spotlight flamingdem Jul 2013 #43
Certainly could be, which makes sense why wikileaks never started the... allin99 Jul 2013 #42
Wikileaks is mum, something's going on nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #44
yup. allin99 Jul 2013 #45
No photos of him on flight from Hong Kong to Moscow. DevonRex Jul 2013 #41
hmmm. But when they interviewed people getting off the flight... allin99 Jul 2013 #46
Hard to believe that after all the protests in Hong Kong, all the publicity DevonRex Jul 2013 #47
people are less likely... allin99 Jul 2013 #50
Maybe he *wants* people to think he's dead. bunnies Jul 2013 #48
Doesn't help him get to vnzla UNLESS.... allin99 Jul 2013 #49
hmmm. true. bunnies Jul 2013 #51
ah, good one. Which is he could be... allin99 Jul 2013 #57
People say it's not about Snowden. Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #52
i get the feeling if he's dead... allin99 Jul 2013 #53
Maybe he has a "cold" NoPasaran Jul 2013 #54
or the one Trotsky had... EX500rider Jul 2013 #55
I still think he's in mainland China. roamer65 Jul 2013 #56
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