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customerserviceguy

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22. My experience is about eight years old at this point
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jul 2013

but let me give it a shot.

The Resolution Trust Corporation was established to acquire the assets of failed S & L's in the wake of the great shakeout of housing lenders in the interest rate collapse of the 1980's. It's primary purpose was to find ways of getting private equity into the portfolios of the failed lenders, but it was also given broad authority to sell the assets of these institutions when they collapsed.

Much more often than not, an assignment or release of a financial instrument involves reciting the names of the original parties as part of the identification of the loan being sold or satisfied. That way, if there is an error in one of say, five terms, the other four establish intent without regard to the transcription mistake (often called scrivener's error). That's why the defunct S & L's names would appear on the documents you were looking at.

I would imagine nearly 100% of all mortgages and foreclosed properties were accounted for in wrapping up RTC's business. However, failed institutions sometimes have incomplete records, and it wouldn't surprise me that a few here and there fell through the cracks. Oh, they might have had someone paying taxes on them, but nobody saw them on a list of assets to be dealt with. It's possible some renters or others might have even acquired title to them, but this is probably a rare exception.

Any properties that didn't have taxes paid on them would have certainly gone to a tax sale, but in many places, tax deeds are difficult to get insured. Sometimes title companies will insure title if they can figure out how to get any possible loose ends resolved, and it's my guess that Wachovia was the successor in interest to either the original lender or perhaps a second lender that didn't get proper notice.

Quit claim deeds (occasionally erroneously called "Quick claim deeds&quot simply transfer whatever interest the grantor has in the property, if any, to the grantee. I could give you a QCD to the Chrysler building, and it would be legal, even though I don't own any interest in that property. They contain no warranty of title, and their highest use is to tie up loose ends resulting from a title search. Often family members use them to convey property interests within the group, and since they're not accompanied by the hoopla surrounding an arms-length transaction involving unrelated sellers and buyers with mortgages and title searches involved, that's how they got the nickname "quick".

It all depends on what else happened in the chain of title as to how insurable it was, and the deed recording office is only part of the story. Courts of competent jurisdiction can also render judgments that change the effect of ownership, they may or may not be referenced by deeds in the deed recorder's office.

Hope that helps!

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Didn't you get the title researched? question everything Jul 2013 #1
Nope, can't track it....remember MERS???? dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #3
The mortgage was recorded on a certain date customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #4
Yeah, I can pop over to the courthouse and check dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #5
They're public records customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #6
Customerserviceguy, would you kindly comment for me on an unusual situation? ms.smiler Jul 2013 #21
My experience is about eight years old at this point customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #22
Succession of interest doesn't show in the chain DirkGently Jul 2013 #28
DirkGently, thank you. I was curious about the purchase of such assets. ms.smiler Jul 2013 #45
QCD is a strange thing for a lending institution to do. DirkGently Jul 2013 #46
Thank you again DirkGently. So the individual has no guarantee regarding the Title ms.smiler Jul 2013 #47
The QCD isn't a problem in itself. Might cause some a bit DirkGently Jul 2013 #48
Yes, but a lot of transactions were not recorded with the Recorder of Deeds locally Samantha Jul 2013 #10
I spent twenty-five years in the title insurance industry customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #11
I am repeating to you what was reported more than once at that time Samantha Jul 2013 #13
Then whoever the closer was customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #14
Here is just one example Samantha Jul 2013 #15
I'm fully aware of that story customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #16
My original mortgage WAS recorded. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #19
My best guess customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #23
Dixiegrrrrl, that sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. pnwmom Jul 2013 #42
Yes, not the original mortgage but those bundled and backed by securities Samantha Jul 2013 #25
Yes, but that's not about recording of mortgages, but other recordings Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #17
This article better references what I am talking about Samantha Jul 2013 #24
Samantha, how about you compare MERS cute little theory about the lack of a need to ms.smiler Jul 2013 #29
Ms. Smiler, in a must-record state the original documents are usually done in MERS name. Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #32
Regardless of MERS business practices, PA statutes require that ALL ms.smiler Jul 2013 #33
Once the mortgage is done in MERS' name, there is no conveyance Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #38
I believe you misunderstood me Samantha Jul 2013 #37
Okay, but that is about assignments, not mortgages Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #31
I thought we were going to end realizing we had a terminology miss! Samantha Jul 2013 #35
MERS has never been the servicer Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #39
Yo Mama, you are correct, MERS is not a mortgage servicer. ms.smiler Jul 2013 #44
is it true you don't need to pay your mortgage if the lender ZRT2209 Jul 2013 #26
ZRT2209, Most of the time it is untrue Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #30
wow! thanks! ZRT2209 Jul 2013 #34
MERS probably happened after you left the industry -- or at least, it probably pnwmom Jul 2013 #41
Actually, to be more specific.. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #9
Not if there was a MERS transfer, which is what happened to my friend's mortgage, twice! sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #20
No, that doesn't work for this anymore. pnwmom Jul 2013 #40
I admit, am not familiar with MER question everything Jul 2013 #43
Make them make the payments, then ... zbdent Jul 2013 #2
Contact a lawyer. Brigid Jul 2013 #7
The Bullshit goes Deep but not the prosecutions FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #8
kick. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2013 #12
We are a nation of clouded property Titles because of fraud, securitization and MERS. ms.smiler Jul 2013 #18
The banks did a lot of crooked stuff -- this isn't really one of them. DirkGently Jul 2013 #27
Yep. Another here that went from Countrywide to BofA and didn't know Lucinda Jul 2013 #36
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