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BainsBane

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52. I'm a middle aged woman

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 08:12 PM

Jul 2013

I am not in good shape, but I have common sense. I've lived in the inner city most of my life. I know how to handle myself. No one bothers me. If you go around scared all the time, you are more likely to be targeted.

The cause between guns and the US murder rate is made evident in international homicide stats. At a conference at Stanford aired this weekend on CSPAN, a series of researchers made clear that there is no other country with our standard of living with a comparable homicide rate. The only factor that explains it is the density of guns in the population. That is obvious to the entire world. Everyone who is not blinded by dogma can see that. Gun nuts choose not to. It is absurd. Obviously they have some sort of psychological need to deny reality, which is sad in and of itself.

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George Zimmerman Explodes the NRA Fantasy of the Armed Citizen [View all] BainsBane Jul 2013 OP

the NRA represents paranoid cowards Skittles Jul 2013 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Pelican Jul 2013 #2

or, apparently, stay off a public road Skittles Jul 2013 #3

How dare he walk about in public while black BainsBane Jul 2013 #5

Notice BainsBane Jul 2013 #22

it's what cowards do, BainsBane Skittles Jul 2013 #27

What? BainsBane Jul 2013 #4

Can you identify a causal link between a gun and the impulse to use it improperly? nt rrneck Jul 2013 #6

I guess it's too much to expect you would actually read the editorial? BainsBane Jul 2013 #7

Um, yeah. rrneck Jul 2013 #10

All the available data on guns is correlation BainsBane Jul 2013 #15

Can you establish rrneck Jul 2013 #32

I'm waiting for you to provide evidence BainsBane Jul 2013 #38

What is it about a gun rrneck Jul 2013 #40

It's mental masturbation. reusrename Jul 2013 #63

I certainly believe you can't answer it. rrneck Jul 2013 #67

It's child's play, really. Packing a gun is exactly like using steroids only it's instant. reusrename Jul 2013 #69

So rrneck Jul 2013 #72

Is the concept really that difficult for you? reusrename Jul 2013 #76

So rrneck Jul 2013 #77

I know he's a murdering, lying sack 'o shit. reusrename Jul 2013 #86

Well, lets see... rrneck Jul 2013 #90

They aren't misusing it BainsBane Jul 2013 #65

I already told you they were designed to kill. Try and keep up. rrneck Jul 2013 #68

well if the point isn't to kill BainsBane Jul 2013 #94

What sort of killing is legal? rrneck Jul 2013 #112

Not quite... TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2013 #47

So what is your response BainsBane Jul 2013 #66

My response isnt more emotional hyperbole... TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2013 #119

and this BainsBane Jul 2013 #8

... rrneck Jul 2013 #11

In other words BainsBane Jul 2013 #17

There are many words you may use rrneck Jul 2013 #33

Don't you think Zimmerman's possession of a gun affected his decision to go hunting? Loudly Jul 2013 #104

Of course it did. rrneck Jul 2013 #117

crickets? BainsBane Jul 2013 #9

A firearm is an object that exists in the real world. rrneck Jul 2013 #13

I have provided evidence BainsBane Jul 2013 #21

Sorry, BB, but your conclusions don't match the evidence. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #24

Obviously people without guns can't shoot BainsBane Jul 2013 #28

Let me make it even simpler for you: Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #108

Maybe you could carry a pool cue with you at all times. louis-t Jul 2013 #31

Did it, and used it. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #109

I don't know, I think you have to have a pretty callous temperament to arm up and carry in public. Hoyt Jul 2013 #35

I think people who dictate what others can and can't do are callous. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #111

We are talking guns here. I think society has right to define how yahoos use them. Enjoy yours. Hoyt Jul 2013 #113

You're right, of course. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #115

Of course guns kill. It's what they're designed to do. rrneck Jul 2013 #34

There need not be a causal link BainsBane Jul 2013 #42

Well, you made the assertion rrneck Jul 2013 #46

I'm a middle aged woman BainsBane Jul 2013 #52

Ah. rrneck Jul 2013 #81

I think the difference is some people look for trouble BainsBane Jul 2013 #96

I don't carry a gun. rrneck Jul 2013 #116

Then there is a point that no one purchases a gun BainsBane Jul 2013 #43

Guns are equally useful rrneck Jul 2013 #45

"defense" like George Zimmerman? BainsBane Jul 2013 #49

Zimmerman was the agressor in that encounter. rrneck Jul 2013 #91

sanctimony BainsBane Jul 2013 #50

Killing is always wrong, every time, I don't care why. rrneck Jul 2013 #92

I have bought many handguns with no intention of ever killing anything with them. ... spin Jul 2013 #58

If you don't intend on killing BainsBane Jul 2013 #59

I have several methods of handling an attack on the street. ... spin Jul 2013 #61

Question BainsBane Jul 2013 #98

Good question. ... spin Jul 2013 #103

Thanks for answering BainsBane Jul 2013 #105

No problem. (n/t) spin Jul 2013 #107

RIght, there are no murders via gun in the US....regards uponit7771 Jul 2013 #12

Can you establish a causal link between the gun and the impulse to use it. rrneck Jul 2013 #14

So Zimmerman would have killed the Martin kid even if he didn't own a gun? reusrename Jul 2013 #64

What else do you know about Zimmerman? rrneck Jul 2013 #70

Aren't you arguing that the gun has nothing to do with the killing? reusrename Jul 2013 #71

No. rrneck Jul 2013 #73

The desire to shoot the kid would be there whether or not he has a gun. reusrename Jul 2013 #74

There is no science junk or otherwise. rrneck Jul 2013 #75

Then why insist on setting up this strawman? reusrename Jul 2013 #84

I didn't make the assertion. rrneck Jul 2013 #88

To clarify rrneck Jul 2013 #83

Your refusal to face reality should not be construed as evasion from others. reusrename Jul 2013 #85

I'm getting the same exact wrong answer. rrneck Jul 2013 #89

You think an answer is wrong because it doesn't tell you what you want to hear BainsBane Jul 2013 #106

Are you asserting that rrneck Jul 2013 #118

In this case? krispos42 Jul 2013 #87

I don't need to, vigilantes chasing down burglary suspects is improper... Hippo_Tron Jul 2013 #79

Yes, all prudent responses, and you are to be congratulated on your grasp of the obvious, rrneck Jul 2013 #82

No one without a badge should be allowed to carry a weapon. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #16

That is not the case BainsBane Jul 2013 #18

I know that is not the case. I just want it to be. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #19

I'm with you on that BainsBane Jul 2013 #20

Me too.nt bravenak Jul 2013 #51

BINGO! kentuck Jul 2013 #23

They love this trial BainsBane Jul 2013 #25

Welcome to the World of the Non-Gun Owner HockeyMom Jul 2013 #26

And your irrational fear should be the basis of public policy? hack89 Jul 2013 #41

That may be the most foolish post I have ever read on DU. ... spin Jul 2013 #60

if you walk around with a hammer riverwalker Jul 2013 #29

Exactly BainsBane Jul 2013 #30

Hmmm on the decline in crime, from their own link: The Straight Story Jul 2013 #36

Yes, you missed it BainsBane Jul 2013 #37

There has to be a point? The Straight Story Jul 2013 #39

The whole armed-citizen/citizen militia movement is made of idiots, misfits and nincompoops... LanternWaste Jul 2013 #44

Well we do have our virtual neighbors BainsBane Jul 2013 #48

I agree with you however ... spin Jul 2013 #62

I have a gun that somebody gave to me. bravenak Jul 2013 #53

I'd say you might do better to turn it in BainsBane Jul 2013 #54

I live in Alaska so I don't know if they even have buy back programs. This state has the worst gun bravenak Jul 2013 #55

I used to carry pepper spray BainsBane Jul 2013 #56

Ok. bravenak Jul 2013 #57

Thing is with these people Spirochete Jul 2013 #78

Gun ownership has fallen far less than the crime rate has krispos42 Jul 2013 #80

This is a column from the Huffington Post BainsBane Jul 2013 #93

But you're posting it, and supporting it. krispos42 Jul 2013 #95

Why, so you can't attack me? BainsBane Jul 2013 #97

So you don't want your stuff challenged? krispos42 Jul 2013 #99

It's not my stuff, dude BainsBane Jul 2013 #100

Oh, you mean my posts would be hidden BainsBane Jul 2013 #101

Also, you should know better than to write posts that long BainsBane Jul 2013 #102

Dodge City WovenGems Jul 2013 #110

No, the Old West had pretty strict gun control Recursion Jul 2013 #114