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(5,331 posts) Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:22 PM Jul 2013

Snowden: NRA supporter who loved domestic spying when it was Bush and hated it when it was Obama [View all]

It now appears that when Bush was president Edward Snowden SUPPORTED domestic spying programs and thought leakers of classified information should be shot, but when Obama became president he suddenly changed his mind.

Chat room transcripts reveal (detailed here) that Snowden was a big Ron Paul supporter and no fan of liberal policies.

He wrote of people who leaked classified information, “those people should be shot in the balls”

He revealed his Ayn Randian philosophy of old people and Social Security with these types of comments: “save money? cut this social security bullshit …. Somehow, our society managed to make it hundreds of years without social security just fine… Magically the world changed after the new deal, and old people became made of glass… they wouldn’t be fucking helpless if you weren’t sending them fucking checks to sit on their ass and lay in hospitals all day”

Read more: http://pullingtotheleft.wordpress.com/2013/07/06/edward-snowden-nra-supporter-who-loved-domestic-spying-when-it-was-bush-and-hated-it-when-it-was-obama/

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Snowden: NRA supporter who loved domestic spying when it was Bush and hated it when it was Obama [View all] Galraedia Jul 2013 OP

I'll say again... CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #1

You know what is worse? djean111 Jul 2013 #2

He's not being smeared - his own words are being played back. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #4

It is another ham handed attempt to smear the messenger. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #10

That's what O'Reilly says when Media Matters plays back O'Reily's own words n/t Blackford Jul 2013 #13

Nevertheless, it is a ham handed attempt to smear the messenger Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #15

I disagree Blackford Jul 2013 #17

He is young. He may be a phony. For all I know, a Trojan Horse. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #44

+1 cascadiance Jul 2013 #109

+1000 JDPriestly Jul 2013 #111

Who cares what credibility Snowden does or doesn't have.... tex-wyo-dem Jul 2013 #45

Maybe he's bipolar? ;-) ReRe Jul 2013 #52

O'Reilly always cries "defamation" anneboleyn Jul 2013 #51

Don't need to be 'ham handed' to do that. randome Jul 2013 #16

I believe a "smear" involves false attribution CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #20

Putting together a negative picture of someone Union Scribe Jul 2013 #30

this sounds like what snowden and g.g are doign to the president sigmasix Jul 2013 #62

The messenger, the one who Spied and Lied and any smears he has against him is his own Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #34

If it's so terrible, doesn't it matter that the heroic revealer of it all treestar Jul 2013 #81

It is not like he can sit back and choose any country he wants. djean111 Jul 2013 #86

It's a sickness to be obsessed with killing the messenger. Your failure to acknowledge that there rhett o rick Jul 2013 #36

"his own words are being played back" djean111 Jul 2013 #77

You know what's even worse? Crying Wolf on SS every other day. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #9

Only because Boehner turned him down. djean111 Jul 2013 #68

One would think that when your human rights are threatened treestar Jul 2013 #83

We are speaking of hypocrisies in this case, Obama campaigning on not touching Social Security, and djean111 Jul 2013 #85

+1000 forestpath Jul 2013 #12

What is the difference between "criticism" and "smearing?" treestar Jul 2013 #79

I think that criticism of Snowden is pointless, and is just a bid to deflect from djean111 Jul 2013 #84

I'm trying to understand... Sheepshank Jul 2013 #96

He can run but he can't hide..... Historic NY Jul 2013 #3

Then he is an irony-filled mirror for many here on DU. Bonobo Jul 2013 #5

+1 noamnety Jul 2013 #25

I always loved those mirrors... ReRe Jul 2013 #55

Indeed. nt raouldukelives Jul 2013 #58

Yes, yes, but...he "saw things". He said stuff. randome Jul 2013 #6

Sharknado! flamingdem Jul 2013 #38

LOLOLOLOL Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #59

!!!! flamingdem Jul 2013 #107

LOL Scurrilous Jul 2013 #106

sliming for Obama! Enrique Jul 2013 #7

No one made up anything. If you don't like what Snowden said, CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #22

Apologists for Snowden. great white snark Jul 2013 #54

Then why did he wait until after he was elected a second time? MattSh Jul 2013 #69

So? I hated both times. Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #8

in case anyone missed this the 20 previous times it was posted.. frylock Jul 2013 #11

I love that clip. OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #14

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #37

So this excuses the spying? Savannahmann Jul 2013 #18

Define "spy on us" CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #21

It violates the Constitution and therefore will, eventually be found to be illegal. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #61

You do know there was a finding by the FISA court itself nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #97

Better a hypocrite than someone who tries to smear a whistleblower! reformist2 Jul 2013 #19

Snowden is not a Whistleblower Major Nikon Jul 2013 #63

wasn't his girl friend a poll dancer or something? I understand he had lots of boxes in his garage Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #23

All whistleblowers are not saints and some do not have good intentions. kelliekat44 Jul 2013 #24

K & R Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #35

How is it possible to keep your head from exploding from the irony? Bonobo Jul 2013 #26

Neither do I. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #27

yep. people are laughing alright. frylock Jul 2013 #57

The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife Hydra Jul 2013 #28

Lol. ronnie624 Jul 2013 #64

I despise the NRA and what they along with ALEC are doing in states... tnlefty Jul 2013 #29

Yep - BushInc pegged him right - he'd be a useful dupe for them. blm Jul 2013 #31

Loved ??? persistent Jul 2013 #32

Less nauseating than the chunk of Democrats that made the opposite flip, though. Why? TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #33

^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^ woo me with science Jul 2013 #40

Snowden for Depend Briefs: Galraedia Jul 2013 #39

You definitively dribble Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #48

Is that supposed to be some kind of mature contribution to the topic? MattSh Jul 2013 #70

Stay classy! n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #99

And the White House is still spying on all Americans MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #41

yep 290 million calls a minute, right? sigmasix Jul 2013 #95

Any word from NORAD? railsback Jul 2013 #42

And the government is still spying on us. woo me with science Jul 2013 #43

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #46

Interesting choice of imagery. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #47

Yeah, I agree. That second image was one I DO NOT NEED in my brain, ever. anneboleyn Jul 2013 #53

Govt is still spying on us. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #49

But's it's cool now that obama is doing it, DUH. allin99 Jul 2013 #92

Yep. If we found out Obama was continuing torture, there would be some DUers defending it. nt HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #101

Motive matters. ucrdem Jul 2013 #50

Motive does not matter, concerning what was leaked. djean111 Jul 2013 #67

and some people around here that hated it when bush did it now love it that obama is doing it.. frylock Jul 2013 #56

+1000 forestpath Jul 2013 #72

Is it ok for me to not like snowden? bravenak Jul 2013 #60

That's about the way I feel. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #74

EXACTLY!! This whole crazy business of people smart mouthing and back talking our leaders is CRAZY!! Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #82

Of course he did. He's a repuke. nt Kahuna Jul 2013 #65

yawn.... think Jul 2013 #66

Shoot the messenger ... again. Laelth Jul 2013 #71

Where you been the last 100 or so years? B Calm Jul 2013 #78

I respect your opinion on the man's character. Laelth Jul 2013 #80

Who do you think is the hypocrite in this case, Snowden or an Obama supporter? WinkyDink Jul 2013 #73

Some of the things that Snowden has said are contradicted by the documents he released. Galraedia Jul 2013 #88

could you imagine even one single person here on DU who did the opposite? Vehemently opposing Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #75

winning! frylock Jul 2013 #90

I am stealing that LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #104

Thank You For Sharing - Maybe True, Maybe Not - He Still Did Us All A Favor cantbeserious Jul 2013 #76

We should focus on the LEAKS, the NSA, its surveillance society. Not on the leaker. peacebird Jul 2013 #87

Could it be possible that the program changed somehow between Bush and Obama? 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #89

Similar to democrats all the sudden for FISA as it stands. allin99 Jul 2013 #91

Ah yes... nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #93

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I used to be a libertarian. Then I grew up. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #98

Thank you marions ghost Jul 2013 #110

As opposed to the many here who seem to like the exact opposite. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #100

people change their beliefs all the time. My guess you have upaloopa Jul 2013 #102

Don't you hate it when someone changes their position based on who is in power? LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #103

Heh! Scurrilous Jul 2013 #105

Kick for delicious irony LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #108

Post-Snowden Statement, the real question now is, "Have Republicans been spying on Democrats?" Coyotl Jul 2013 #112

Some of the things that Snowden has said are contradicted by the documents he released. Galraedia Jul 2013 #113