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62. I agree with you however ...

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:42 PM

Jul 2013

you need to realize that not all gun owners belong to the "armed-citizen militia movement."

I have been target shooting handguns for 40 years and I have a carry permit and carry. I have no interest in joining a militia or the Tea Party.

I known a lot of gun owners through the years and let me assure you that not all are "sub-literate dullards." Many that I know are college educated professionals. Of course I live in a "gun friendly" state where firearm ownership is very common.

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George Zimmerman Explodes the NRA Fantasy of the Armed Citizen [View all] BainsBane Jul 2013 OP

the NRA represents paranoid cowards Skittles Jul 2013 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Pelican Jul 2013 #2

or, apparently, stay off a public road Skittles Jul 2013 #3

How dare he walk about in public while black BainsBane Jul 2013 #5

Notice BainsBane Jul 2013 #22

it's what cowards do, BainsBane Skittles Jul 2013 #27

What? BainsBane Jul 2013 #4

Can you identify a causal link between a gun and the impulse to use it improperly? nt rrneck Jul 2013 #6

I guess it's too much to expect you would actually read the editorial? BainsBane Jul 2013 #7

Um, yeah. rrneck Jul 2013 #10

All the available data on guns is correlation BainsBane Jul 2013 #15

Can you establish rrneck Jul 2013 #32

I'm waiting for you to provide evidence BainsBane Jul 2013 #38

What is it about a gun rrneck Jul 2013 #40

It's mental masturbation. reusrename Jul 2013 #63

I certainly believe you can't answer it. rrneck Jul 2013 #67

It's child's play, really. Packing a gun is exactly like using steroids only it's instant. reusrename Jul 2013 #69

So rrneck Jul 2013 #72

Is the concept really that difficult for you? reusrename Jul 2013 #76

So rrneck Jul 2013 #77

I know he's a murdering, lying sack 'o shit. reusrename Jul 2013 #86

Well, lets see... rrneck Jul 2013 #90

They aren't misusing it BainsBane Jul 2013 #65

I already told you they were designed to kill. Try and keep up. rrneck Jul 2013 #68

well if the point isn't to kill BainsBane Jul 2013 #94

What sort of killing is legal? rrneck Jul 2013 #112

Not quite... TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2013 #47

So what is your response BainsBane Jul 2013 #66

My response isnt more emotional hyperbole... TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2013 #119

and this BainsBane Jul 2013 #8

... rrneck Jul 2013 #11

In other words BainsBane Jul 2013 #17

There are many words you may use rrneck Jul 2013 #33

Don't you think Zimmerman's possession of a gun affected his decision to go hunting? Loudly Jul 2013 #104

Of course it did. rrneck Jul 2013 #117

crickets? BainsBane Jul 2013 #9

A firearm is an object that exists in the real world. rrneck Jul 2013 #13

I have provided evidence BainsBane Jul 2013 #21

Sorry, BB, but your conclusions don't match the evidence. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #24

Obviously people without guns can't shoot BainsBane Jul 2013 #28

Let me make it even simpler for you: Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #108

Maybe you could carry a pool cue with you at all times. louis-t Jul 2013 #31

Did it, and used it. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #109

I don't know, I think you have to have a pretty callous temperament to arm up and carry in public. Hoyt Jul 2013 #35

I think people who dictate what others can and can't do are callous. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #111

We are talking guns here. I think society has right to define how yahoos use them. Enjoy yours. Hoyt Jul 2013 #113

You're right, of course. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2013 #115

Of course guns kill. It's what they're designed to do. rrneck Jul 2013 #34

There need not be a causal link BainsBane Jul 2013 #42

Well, you made the assertion rrneck Jul 2013 #46

I'm a middle aged woman BainsBane Jul 2013 #52

Ah. rrneck Jul 2013 #81

I think the difference is some people look for trouble BainsBane Jul 2013 #96

I don't carry a gun. rrneck Jul 2013 #116

Then there is a point that no one purchases a gun BainsBane Jul 2013 #43

Guns are equally useful rrneck Jul 2013 #45

"defense" like George Zimmerman? BainsBane Jul 2013 #49

Zimmerman was the agressor in that encounter. rrneck Jul 2013 #91

sanctimony BainsBane Jul 2013 #50

Killing is always wrong, every time, I don't care why. rrneck Jul 2013 #92

I have bought many handguns with no intention of ever killing anything with them. ... spin Jul 2013 #58

If you don't intend on killing BainsBane Jul 2013 #59

I have several methods of handling an attack on the street. ... spin Jul 2013 #61

Question BainsBane Jul 2013 #98

Good question. ... spin Jul 2013 #103

Thanks for answering BainsBane Jul 2013 #105

No problem. (n/t) spin Jul 2013 #107

RIght, there are no murders via gun in the US....regards uponit7771 Jul 2013 #12

Can you establish a causal link between the gun and the impulse to use it. rrneck Jul 2013 #14

So Zimmerman would have killed the Martin kid even if he didn't own a gun? reusrename Jul 2013 #64

What else do you know about Zimmerman? rrneck Jul 2013 #70

Aren't you arguing that the gun has nothing to do with the killing? reusrename Jul 2013 #71

No. rrneck Jul 2013 #73

The desire to shoot the kid would be there whether or not he has a gun. reusrename Jul 2013 #74

There is no science junk or otherwise. rrneck Jul 2013 #75

Then why insist on setting up this strawman? reusrename Jul 2013 #84

I didn't make the assertion. rrneck Jul 2013 #88

To clarify rrneck Jul 2013 #83

Your refusal to face reality should not be construed as evasion from others. reusrename Jul 2013 #85

I'm getting the same exact wrong answer. rrneck Jul 2013 #89

You think an answer is wrong because it doesn't tell you what you want to hear BainsBane Jul 2013 #106

Are you asserting that rrneck Jul 2013 #118

In this case? krispos42 Jul 2013 #87

I don't need to, vigilantes chasing down burglary suspects is improper... Hippo_Tron Jul 2013 #79

Yes, all prudent responses, and you are to be congratulated on your grasp of the obvious, rrneck Jul 2013 #82

No one without a badge should be allowed to carry a weapon. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #16

That is not the case BainsBane Jul 2013 #18

I know that is not the case. I just want it to be. nt AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #19

I'm with you on that BainsBane Jul 2013 #20

Me too.nt bravenak Jul 2013 #51

BINGO! kentuck Jul 2013 #23

They love this trial BainsBane Jul 2013 #25

Welcome to the World of the Non-Gun Owner HockeyMom Jul 2013 #26

And your irrational fear should be the basis of public policy? hack89 Jul 2013 #41

That may be the most foolish post I have ever read on DU. ... spin Jul 2013 #60

if you walk around with a hammer riverwalker Jul 2013 #29

Exactly BainsBane Jul 2013 #30

Hmmm on the decline in crime, from their own link: The Straight Story Jul 2013 #36

Yes, you missed it BainsBane Jul 2013 #37

There has to be a point? The Straight Story Jul 2013 #39

The whole armed-citizen/citizen militia movement is made of idiots, misfits and nincompoops... LanternWaste Jul 2013 #44

Well we do have our virtual neighbors BainsBane Jul 2013 #48

I agree with you however ... spin Jul 2013 #62

I have a gun that somebody gave to me. bravenak Jul 2013 #53

I'd say you might do better to turn it in BainsBane Jul 2013 #54

I live in Alaska so I don't know if they even have buy back programs. This state has the worst gun bravenak Jul 2013 #55

I used to carry pepper spray BainsBane Jul 2013 #56

Ok. bravenak Jul 2013 #57

Thing is with these people Spirochete Jul 2013 #78

Gun ownership has fallen far less than the crime rate has krispos42 Jul 2013 #80

This is a column from the Huffington Post BainsBane Jul 2013 #93

But you're posting it, and supporting it. krispos42 Jul 2013 #95

Why, so you can't attack me? BainsBane Jul 2013 #97

So you don't want your stuff challenged? krispos42 Jul 2013 #99

It's not my stuff, dude BainsBane Jul 2013 #100

Oh, you mean my posts would be hidden BainsBane Jul 2013 #101

Also, you should know better than to write posts that long BainsBane Jul 2013 #102

Dodge City WovenGems Jul 2013 #110

No, the Old West had pretty strict gun control Recursion Jul 2013 #114