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markiv

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7. skydiving is legal, but safety is not guaranteed

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:12 PM

Jul 2013

i think that's the real lesson here

sure, it's legal to pack heat and confront people, but the trouble you get into is your own

why do people think corporations pay for uniformed security, with training, under separate corporations with bonding - because corporations like spending money? no, it's to manage risk

what's ;ost in this conversation, is that it's not binary, legal or not, it's also the issue of how risky it is

i dont know or care what happened, at minimum, zimmerman was stupid and walked into trouble when he didnt have to

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Owning a gun is not just a right; there are responsibilities that go along with it [View all] gollygee Jul 2013 OP

No matter what, he will strengthen the gun control movement. onehandle Jul 2013 #1

I think the only reasonable doubt MIGHT be with murder Nevernose Jul 2013 #2

I agree owning a gun has responsibilities and Zimmerman did not have correct training or just did Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #3

and the 1% of gun owners that do misuse guns should face the penalties of doing so The Straight Story Jul 2013 #4

The OP Is about Zimmerman BainsBane Jul 2013 #6

There is a scene in the West Wing where the lawyer tells Cj galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #8

+ 1000 nt CokeMachine Jul 2013 #9

an extremist BainsBane Jul 2013 #32

What can I say, you say some pretty outrageous things galileoreloaded Jul 2013 #40

I don't think you are even trying anymore (or you are just trolling at this point) The Straight Story Jul 2013 #29

Sorry, I'm not here to post NRA talking points BainsBane Jul 2013 #33

So you are saying I am? Care to back that up? The Straight Story Jul 2013 #34

Your facts BainsBane Jul 2013 #35

"The basic fact is that you and others value guns over the lives of those killed by guns." uh...No The Straight Story Jul 2013 #39

Here is that back up BainsBane Jul 2013 #36

How is that related to suicide?? Here is what that link says: The Straight Story Jul 2013 #38

K & R Just Saying Jul 2013 #5

skydiving is legal, but safety is not guaranteed markiv Jul 2013 #7

When did using hollow point bullets become a responsible choice? targetpractice Jul 2013 #10

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #11

When people figured out that they were less likely... beevul Jul 2013 #12

Overpenetrate? targetpractice Jul 2013 #13

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #14

Why do you want them to expand? To kill the target? n/t targetpractice Jul 2013 #15

To stop the "target" from being a threat, as rapidly as possible NickB79 Jul 2013 #18

And shooting regular ole bullet won't do? Why? targetpractice Jul 2013 #19

Because you want the threat stopped as fast as possible NickB79 Jul 2013 #25

I want the first bullet to be as effective as possible Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #37

The goal of use of force, sarisataka Jul 2013 #20

To ensure a kill, in other words. targetpractice Jul 2013 #21

Where did I ever indicate killing is the goal? sarisataka Jul 2013 #22

Just the opposite, actually. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #24

They always have been the responsible choice. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2013 #23

So if he's found not guilty of "anything at all" that will be case law for hunting down and killing flvegan Jul 2013 #16

Precedent is a useful and dangerous thing. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #28

The only way this sets precedent anomiep Jul 2013 #30

There is no right whatsoever that does not carry responsibilities that go along with it anomiep Jul 2013 #17

+1 Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #27

Thanks! anomiep Jul 2013 #31

All of our Rights have responsibilities, GREAT responsibilities. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2013 #26