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In reply to the discussion: I'm really disheartened reading comments all over the web about this trial... [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)from start to finish. And NO witness saw Martin beating Zimmerman. Not ONE. Good, who had to change his testimony in court testified that he saw the person with the dark sweater on top of the other person with his arms moving downward. He had to admit that he did not see any punching but only what he THOUGHT was punching. He also said he believed that the person on the bottom was the one screaming not because he saw it but because his opinion was that in such a situation it would be the person on the bottom that was screaming.
Zimmerman's own words put the lie to what happened as he lied about multiple things many of them absolutely laughable.
As to Florida law, no you may not kill someone you are in a fight with unless you have a REASONABLE fear you are in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. Not what HE thinks is reasonable but what the average person deems reasonable. Zimmerman claims he was in imminent fear of death because his head was pounded on cement 20 or more times, that he was punched in the face 35-40 times and that Martin tried to smother him yet the blood on his face isn't smeared, the screams that were heard and he claims were his own weren't muffled or paused, and there was not only no blood on Martin's hands but not a single cell of Zimmerman's DNA yet Zimmerman claimed Martin previously punched him in the nose making it bleed. No reasonable person on earth will believe that his unbroken nose that bled a little not from his nostrils but from the two little cuts on the tip of his nose and the two tiny lacerations to the back of his head that showed no smearing of blood and the rivulets of blood from those two small cuts trailed down the back of his head and then toward the face which put him in an upright position with his head bent downward would believe that he was reasonably afraid of death or great bodily harm nor would they believe his claims of how he got those insignificant injuries.
Yep, there's nothing about following someone with your car and then when they run from you on foot and then chase them down and confront them that is against the law. However, any reasonable person would believe that a person to whom this happened would be in reasonable fear of the person following, chasing and then confronting them and have the right to defend themselves. Florida law allows MARTIN to have stood his ground and physically fought off Zimmerman because he had a reasonable person's fear of harm from him. Had Martin been a female Zimmerman would have been arrested that night and there would be no question as to his guilt. Why is this any different that Martin was a male CHILD?
Further, if at any time Zimmerman pulled out his gun before he claims to have pulled it out Martin would have had the reasonable fear of being imminently killed or have great bodily harm done to him. And there's no way that Zimmerman pulled out his gun when he claims to have done so because in the positions he claims both he and Martin were in it would not have been physically possible for him to have done so.... he had to have had his gun already out and in his hand. THAT is why Zimmerman shot him... because Martin was trying to keep Zimmerman from shooting him, and Zimmerman was afraid he'd get his gun away from him and kill him with his own gun.
Had Zimmerman not tried to play vigilante cop and chase down a kid who was just walking home from the store unarmed with candy and a canned drink talking on his phone with a friend, confront this innocent kid who he was sure was a criminal up to no good in his own mind, pulled a gun on him and when afraid he'd lose his gun to him because of what HE HIMSELF did then both Martin and Zimmerman would have been alive and uninjured going about their own business.