Snowden: NRA supporter who loved domestic spying when it was Bush and hated it when it was Obama

[JDPriestly]

61. It violates the Constitution and therefore will, eventually be found to be illegal.

Segregation also ultimately was found to violate the Constitution. It took 100 years, but it was finally ruled that separate but equal deprived African-Americans and others of equal rights and that deprivation violated the Constitution.

A free press is impossible if all communications between members of the press and their sources are under surveillance and known to the government.

Same with freedom of religion and freedom of assembly.

And some of the secret rulings of the FISA court, because they are secret and because we the people cannot know what they are, deprive us of our right to petition our government to have them changed. That too is unconstitutional.

I have stated these arguments many times on DU. As of this time and this post, no one has refuted them. No one has explained how we can have a free press or freedom of religion or freedom of assembly or the right to freely petition our government to change the laws that permit the specific broad orders that enable this program if we are all under surveillance.

Lots of nasty aspersions on Snowden as an individual, but no explanations as to how we can claim to be free and to have the freedoms I listed if we are under surveillance.

I'm waiting, and have been waiting for days if not weeks now. No persuasive counterarguments have been offered.