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In reply to the discussion: George Zimmerman Explodes the NRA Fantasy of the Armed Citizen [View all]rrneck
(17,671 posts)112. What sort of killing is legal?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justifiable_homicide
It's called Justifiable Homicide
United States
A non-criminal homicide, usually committed in self-defense or in defense of another, may be called in some cases in the United States. A homicide may be considered justified if it is done to prevent a very serious crime, such as rape, armed robbery, manslaughter or murder. The assailant's intent to commit a serious crime must be clear at the time. A homicide performed out of vengeance, or retribution for action in the past, would largely not be considered justifiable.
In many states, given a case of self-defense, the defendant is expected to obey a duty to retreat if it is possible to do so. In the states of Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana,[1] New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Washington, Wyoming and other Castle Doctrine states, there is no duty to retreat in certain situations (depending on the state, this may apply to one's home, business, or vehicle, or to any public place where a person is lawfully present). Preemptive self-defense, cases in which one kills another on suspicion that the victim might eventually become dangerous, is considered criminal, no matter how likely it is that one was right. Justifiable homicide is a legal gray area, and there is no clear legal standard for a homicide to be considered justifiable. The circumstances under which homicide is justified are usually considered to be that the defendant had no alternative method of self-defense or defense of another than to kill the attacker.
In the U.S. Supreme Court ruling of District of Columbia v Heller, the majority held that the Constitution protected the right to the possession of firearms for the purpose of self-defense "and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home".[2]
It's called Justifiable Homicide
United States
A non-criminal homicide, usually committed in self-defense or in defense of another, may be called in some cases in the United States. A homicide may be considered justified if it is done to prevent a very serious crime, such as rape, armed robbery, manslaughter or murder. The assailant's intent to commit a serious crime must be clear at the time. A homicide performed out of vengeance, or retribution for action in the past, would largely not be considered justifiable.
In many states, given a case of self-defense, the defendant is expected to obey a duty to retreat if it is possible to do so. In the states of Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana,[1] New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Washington, Wyoming and other Castle Doctrine states, there is no duty to retreat in certain situations (depending on the state, this may apply to one's home, business, or vehicle, or to any public place where a person is lawfully present). Preemptive self-defense, cases in which one kills another on suspicion that the victim might eventually become dangerous, is considered criminal, no matter how likely it is that one was right. Justifiable homicide is a legal gray area, and there is no clear legal standard for a homicide to be considered justifiable. The circumstances under which homicide is justified are usually considered to be that the defendant had no alternative method of self-defense or defense of another than to kill the attacker.
In the U.S. Supreme Court ruling of District of Columbia v Heller, the majority held that the Constitution protected the right to the possession of firearms for the purpose of self-defense "and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home".[2]
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Can you identify a causal link between a gun and the impulse to use it improperly? nt
rrneck
Jul 2013
#6
It's child's play, really. Packing a gun is exactly like using steroids only it's instant.
reusrename
Jul 2013
#69
Don't you think Zimmerman's possession of a gun affected his decision to go hunting?
Loudly
Jul 2013
#104
I don't know, I think you have to have a pretty callous temperament to arm up and carry in public.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#35
We are talking guns here. I think society has right to define how yahoos use them. Enjoy yours.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#113
I have bought many handguns with no intention of ever killing anything with them. ...
spin
Jul 2013
#58
Your refusal to face reality should not be construed as evasion from others.
reusrename
Jul 2013
#85
You think an answer is wrong because it doesn't tell you what you want to hear
BainsBane
Jul 2013
#106
Yes, all prudent responses, and you are to be congratulated on your grasp of the obvious,
rrneck
Jul 2013
#82
The whole armed-citizen/citizen militia movement is made of idiots, misfits and nincompoops...
LanternWaste
Jul 2013
#44