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65. I never said President Obama never did anything wrong.

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 02:47 PM

Jul 2013

Your hero committed a crime. He stole equipment with documents that are top secret. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRESIDENT. If Snowden is being persecuted for his political beliefs then he has a right to asylum. But he is a thief and tratior. Just because you feel that a thief can get away without being brought to trial doesn't make it right.

I don't know why the Government could prevent the Boston terror. I did hear something that the Russian government did not share information with the FBI; however they did manage to catch them by tracing the cell phone of the owner of the car they hijacked BEFORE they could continue on to Time Square in NewYork.

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The ACLU's own text contradicts its case for Snowden's asylum bid. [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

Nice try but ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #1

You mean ProSense Jul 2013 #2

Sorry, but you used all those damned "linky-facty" things again, so clearly your post ... 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #49

Wow � 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #80

I think 11 Bravo figured he didn't have to Cha Jul 2013 #88

I didn't forget it, I just didn't use it. (Sometimes I forget ... 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #93

Oops ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #94

Well ...Snowen loves bunnies ...so whatever. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #98

Not a nice try "non-authoritarian" Progressive dog Jul 2013 #25

Which state are those? The European ones which grounded Morales flight? BenzoDia Jul 2013 #35

You mean like Russia, where Putin asked him to knock it off CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #39

Which ones would those be? Major Nikon Jul 2013 #83

Oh good, the morning ProSense effort to claim that black is white, up is down.. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #3

Um ProSense Jul 2013 #4

So your contention is that it is both legal and moral Savannahmann Jul 2013 #5

No, ProSense Jul 2013 #7

If Snowden did not release that information. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #11

Don't do that. You'll get her tangled up in her own bullshit. RC Jul 2013 #24

The bullshit, is your comment. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #28

Obvious is obvious RC Jul 2013 #33

Not to mention your comma RetroLounge Jul 2013 #44

Tangled up in blue? nt Zorra Jul 2013 #46

Here ProSense Jul 2013 #27

But the nature of the information is what we were debating. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #37

That makes no sense. ProSense Jul 2013 #38

I still win. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #40

You seem to be the expert on ignoring. RC Jul 2013 #41

One problem with your premise.....as of right now...it is NOT illegal. VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #54

It appears to me, and many more that it is illegal. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #77

But YOU do not get to make that decision do you? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #81

At the very least it is Immoral. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #82

It may be.....but that is the unfortunate consequences of Democracy. VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #95

Doesn't matter if a court finds it illegal in the future. Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #84

Was it? Savannahmann Jul 2013 #87

It was legal to walk down a street until a court said it wasn't Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #90

But they could and did until the court said it was legal. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #91

K&R AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #6

Your posts continue to amuse Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #8

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #12

It's your prerogative, but G_j Jul 2013 #9

Nice thought, but I have a feeling that's not the mission. polichick Jul 2013 #79

Could you explain what a political crime in the US is? The Straight Story Jul 2013 #10

Definition of POLITICAL CRIME: a violation of the law for political rather than private reasons Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #21

Is Scott Roeder a political prisoner? VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #56

Eric Rudolph be defined as a political prisoner.... VanillaRhapsody Jul 2013 #55

It would be more informative if ProSense posted a thread-du-jour about illegal spying... Sancho Jul 2013 #13

Same here. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #16

Not sure ProSense Jul 2013 #17

Well ...someone has an agenda ...and what the NSA does isn't part of that agenda... L0oniX Jul 2013 #99

I enjoy reading your post gholtron Jul 2013 #14

No disidoro01 Jul 2013 #18

The focus is on Snowden gholtron Jul 2013 #20

yes disidoro01 Jul 2013 #31

Answers to.your questions. gholtron Jul 2013 #45

just disidoro01 Jul 2013 #59

I never said President Obama never did anything wrong. gholtron Jul 2013 #65

You heard wrong. disidoro01 Jul 2013 #68

Oh forget it gholtron Jul 2013 #78

I forgot to mention gholtron Jul 2013 #66

read my link disidoro01 Jul 2013 #71

wishing for more common sense like Gholtron NT sigmasix Jul 2013 #103

this x 1million! Nail on the head! NT sigmasix Jul 2013 #102

if you ever form an opinion on snowden SwampG8r Jul 2013 #15

Sure. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #19

When the shit starts flying the blowflies swarm Sheepshank Jul 2013 #22

He did break the law LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #23

Those blue links don't exist. RC Jul 2013 #32

Yes, it's quite surprising LondonReign2 Jul 2013 #62

You'd think a law breaker is a law breaker, huh? RC Jul 2013 #63

You mean like Congress is calling for Clapper's head? Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #26

He broke the law and is not entitled to asylum, Progressive dog Jul 2013 #29

That's a false premise disidoro01 Jul 2013 #34

He applied to everyone that stepped forward Progressive dog Jul 2013 #47

Can you disidoro01 Jul 2013 #60

They EU wouldn't let him in, the countries Progressive dog Jul 2013 #61

I agree disidoro01 Jul 2013 #64

He's also applying our Bill of Rights to the entire world. Which smacks of irony and immense hubris. randome Jul 2013 #30

Recongizing the inalienable rights of all is not the same as governing them all. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #43

"Inalienable rights", is that a Venezuelan Progressive dog Jul 2013 #48

inalienable, unalienable - Inalienable and unalienable are interchangeable Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #50

Thanks for answering a question I didn't raise nt Progressive dog Jul 2013 #52

Ikey-doke. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #53

In his statement this morning, he cited the 4th and 5th Amendments, snappyturtle Jul 2013 #51

Spying WovenGems Jul 2013 #36

Snowden has been charged with espionage. Espionage is a political crime. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #42

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #57

Yes. One of the charges levied, ESPIONAGE, is a political crime. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #92

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #58

So. Fucking. Transparent. n/t hootinholler Jul 2013 #67

Blah, Blah. Blah. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #69

RAH. RAH. RAH. n/t hootinholler Jul 2013 #72

Yes. We. Can. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #73

You. Sure. Did. n/t hootinholler Jul 2013 #75

You deserve a raise. polichick Jul 2013 #70

Don't you? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #74

Nah - I don't work within the parameters as well as you do... polichick Jul 2013 #76

And, you deserve an Ignore post plaque. Cha Jul 2013 #89

LOL - I've never put anyone on ignore... polichick Jul 2013 #96

My bad.. I meant to write Ignorant. Cha Jul 2013 #97

I see - too ignorant to spell ignorant. lol polichick Jul 2013 #101

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