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Taverner

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94. RMN was always paranoid and played dirty

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:16 PM

Jul 2013

He viewed himself as some kind of Horatio Alger story, but with a California twist.

He thought of himself as the everyman, but he was really the kid who got bullied in school returning fire in his adult years.

To him the Kennedys WERE the enemy, the secular new America, not the religious fundies' America he grew up with.

He was a Quaker, but not of the Pacifist Variety. Sub-Sub-Sub-Denominations come in all flavors.

And his was strict Evangelical Calvinism - and the Kennedys were the least deserving of their wealth in his eyes.

Wealth produced by SIN.

The Kennedys were, in his eyes, Mozart to his Salieri.

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Quick Poll: Who was President when you were born? [View all] Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 OP

Batista. dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #1

Millard Filmore olddots Jul 2013 #2

LBJ SummerSnow Jul 2013 #3

I don't remember. I was a baby and we didn't have the internet back then The Straight Story Jul 2013 #4

Ah HAH!!! Pre-Al Gore!!! Busted!!!! Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #13

JFK......Feb, 1963. yourout Jul 2013 #5

Me too, 1962 magellan Jul 2013 #22

Same here. kentauros Jul 2013 #61

Feb 1963 here too n't B2G Jul 2013 #128

Truman was President when I was born upaloopa Jul 2013 #6

Reagan. 1988. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #7

1946 - Harry Truman Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #8

Truman HarveyDarkey Jul 2013 #9

Lincoln dorkzilla Jul 2013 #10

Karl Renner hobbit709 Jul 2013 #11

Truman, premium Jul 2013 #12

Nixon. nt justiceischeap Jul 2013 #14

Truman, but... meaculpa2011 Jul 2013 #15

Polls only go to ten questions. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #19

I'm waiting for someone to say Herbert Hoover :) nt steve2470 Jul 2013 #101

Feb 68 would mean LBJ. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #16

FDR nt bike man Jul 2013 #17

Me too Wwagsthedog Jul 2013 #29

Me three. broiles Jul 2013 #62

Me two doubled shraby Jul 2013 #96

FDR here, too. kskiska Jul 2013 #142

George Meany n/t IDemo Jul 2013 #18

Truman. mnhtnbb Jul 2013 #20

Ike but a few months later JFK became Pres! UserNSAv32 Jul 2013 #21

I'm your age cpwm17 Jul 2013 #25

Cool! I wear size 32 undies do you too? UserNSAv32 Jul 2013 #76

Carter. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #23

January 1960 Brewinblue Jul 2013 #24

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FDR - I was born in 1941 juajen Jul 2013 #27

1941? Jeez you could be a Rolling Stone. byeya Jul 2013 #31

Me too tularetom Jul 2013 #68

LBJ one_voice Jul 2013 #32

Lot of old farts Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #33

don't get me cranky sonny olddots Jul 2013 #65

LOL. Nice.nt Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #78

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Kennedy. The British Prime Minister was Harold Macmillan. LeftishBrit Jul 2013 #34

Clinton: 1994 DEMTough Jul 2013 #35

Scram, kid. bunnies Jul 2013 #40

Well, Hello To You Too! DEMTough Jul 2013 #131

Is that even legal? BainsBane Jul 2013 #82

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You'll get no issues from me, sir. DEMTough Jul 2013 #133

Welcome my friend! I was born under Carter 78 and Clinton was the first President I voted for in 96. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #102

Hi there! DEMTough Jul 2013 #135

Wow you were 2 when I voted for the first time. Reminds me of some of my sisters kids I took hrmjustin Jul 2013 #147

Where were your parents when Kennedy was shot? reusrename Jul 2013 #130

One of Two were around, haha. DEMTough Jul 2013 #136

Oh noes! reusrename Jul 2013 #140

I'm not that sure, actually. DEMTough Jul 2013 #144

It's just one of those things. reusrename Jul 2013 #153

Yes, I understand. DEMTough Jul 2013 #161

It's horrible. reusrename Jul 2013 #162

Let's post our Social Security numbers, too! woo me with science Jul 2013 #36

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You first and don't forget your mother's maiden name olddots Jul 2013 #66

Reagan baby right hizzhere ellisonz Jul 2013 #37

Nixon's the one - lousy president - but great time to be born. nt el_bryanto Jul 2013 #38

FDR Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #41

To those who voted Truman-FDR Taverner Jul 2013 #42

You're right. Testimonials are important since that was a turning point. When wars weren't "cold". Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #80

Yes! I once met a woman who was a little girl in one of the NYC skyscrapers on VJ day Taverner Jul 2013 #83

I was a child of the Space Age. By now we were supposed to have a city on the moon. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #86

We ended up with Tang... Taverner Jul 2013 #89

Yeah,...and Nixon on the moon plaque..... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #93

RMN was always paranoid and played dirty Taverner Jul 2013 #94

I always thought Nixon was doing a bad Ed Sullivan impression. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #119

FDR mitchtv Jul 2013 #104

That will forever be paired with Faux News 2012 Taverner Jul 2013 #118

ha mitchtv Jul 2013 #125

I still remember watching the 1956 presidential campaign on tv. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #43

Another FDR life long demo Jul 2013 #44

I get more liberal with age madokie Jul 2013 #49

All who gain wisdom as they age become more liberal imv indepat Jul 2013 #55

What was it like as a kid growing up in Truman's America? Taverner Jul 2013 #90

Actually kind of close..... Wounded Bear Jul 2013 #45

Me,too... SiobhanClancy Jul 2013 #116

Wow, we got a lot of old fucks on this site MrScorpio Jul 2013 #46

Old fucks, but very good fucks... nt GliderGuider Jul 2013 #51

Definitely confirms vitality is wasted on the youth. nt adirondacker Jul 2013 #53

Do not ever think that... Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #59

A lot of us old madokie Jul 2013 #47

Harry Truman. MineralMan Jul 2013 #48

FDR. AlinPA Jul 2013 #50

Early FDR indepat Jul 2013 #52

President SamKnause Jul 2013 #54

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Clinton... PennsylvaniaMatt Jul 2013 #60

You and I are curiosities around here! DEMTough Jul 2013 #137

Yes we are! PennsylvaniaMatt Jul 2013 #138

Sounds like a plan! DEMTough Jul 2013 #146

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Truman, BarbaRosa Jul 2013 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author LumosMaxima Jul 2013 #69

JFK Go Vols Jul 2013 #70

my goodnesss according to this poll around 54% of DU are somewhere around my age or older - I did Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #71

So much for the "When you get older you become more Conservative" myth. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #79

1956. We get smarter and more compassionate as we age curlyred Jul 2013 #109

Not an accurate assessment DC ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #112

The First Atomic Bomb was Exploded in July, 1945. korak Jul 2013 #72

Additionally, I remember listening to President Truman speaking on our korak Jul 2013 #75

FDR born 1940 CK_John Jul 2013 #73

William Howard Taft LeftInTX Jul 2013 #74

Gerald Ford. PragmaticLiberal Jul 2013 #77

Lame duck Ike hootinholler Jul 2013 #84

Lame Duck Reagan. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #85

Kennedy - May 1961 markpkessinger Jul 2013 #88

I like Ike pipi_k Jul 2013 #91

When I was born the Dodgers were still in Brooklyn... malthaussen Jul 2013 #92

I saw a game in Ebbets Field. Erskine pitched. byeya Jul 2013 #134

1938 - FDR was in when I was born...... fadedrose Jul 2013 #95

Truman tavernier Jul 2013 #97

This is one damn old people's forum Ter Jul 2013 #98

Demographics, demographics. malthaussen Jul 2013 #108

this is consistent with other similar polls done through the years JI7 Jul 2013 #99

I didn't like IKE, I was too young steve2470 Jul 2013 #100

Carter, 1980. n/t tammywammy Jul 2013 #103

The Prime Minister of Canada during that period was Louis St. Laurent. PDJane Jul 2013 #105

I was born when Lester B Pearson was in office. roamer65 Jul 2013 #151

St. Laurent was among the best of the best. PDJane Jul 2013 #157

Ike, June of 59... ms liberty Jul 2013 #106

Kennedy tnlefty Jul 2013 #107

Alexander Haig. hay rick Jul 2013 #110

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LBJ Bobbie Jo Jul 2013 #111

Truman, 1950 PlanetBev Jul 2013 #113

Truman, but do not remember him ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #114

Wow! Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2013 #115

Yeah,...but prior polls reveal everyone has a perfect physic. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #120

LBJ by 13 days. William769 Jul 2013 #117

LBJ took the IRT... PasadenaTrudy Jul 2013 #121

According to the Chicago Tribune it was Thomas Dewey nevergiveup Jul 2013 #122

Merkin Muffley ... MichaelSoE Jul 2013 #124

I was born in Dec 1960 Politicalboi Jul 2013 #126

Truman. I don't remember him, of course, but have some memory of Ike's administration. Shrike47 Jul 2013 #127

Ike, Kennedy was president-elect in Dec. 1960. nt mentalsolstice Jul 2013 #129

GHWB. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #139

truman, harry s spanone Jul 2013 #141

Reagan, 1985 ShadowLiberal Jul 2013 #143

FDR but I do remember him. He died when I was five. n/t Cleita Jul 2013 #145

The responses so far almost make me feel young again! Lurks Often Jul 2013 #148

You should put Hoover and Coolidge in the poll. roamer65 Jul 2013 #149

Are you confessing? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #156

Lol. Born under LBJ here. roamer65 Jul 2013 #159

I'm sure they would proudly declare themselves. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #160

Truman Punkingal Jul 2013 #150

Ike Danmel Jul 2013 #152

1942: President Roosevelt Grey Jul 2013 #154

Richard M. Nixon. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #155

Nixon. It was his first year in office. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #158

Well, how am I supposed to know that? rocktivity Jan 2014 #163