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JDPriestly

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22. No, they don't. They are members of the press, and if Snowden doesn't have the right to free

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:51 AM

Jul 2013

speech and assembly, then neither do the members of the press or any of us, and neither do we have the right to a free press.

This press conference shows how little respect our government has for our constitutional rights -- the most fundamental of our constitutional rights.

What is with the Obama administration? I'm so sorry to see this reaction on its part to a situation in which our NSA is utterly disregarding the Constitution.

You know what I am wondering after reading that exchange. What is the Obama administration still hiding? Why are they so afraid of Snowden?

Apparently this scandal does not end just with the surveillance. There must be something more that we don't know about. I can't imagine that there could be much worse.

Obama needs to distance himself from the human rights foes in his administration.

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State Department Brief Today on Snowden. Unbelievable [View all] Catherina Jul 2013 OP

this is the longest single post in DU HISTORY. rsmith6621 Jul 2013 #1

K&R for the DU record length post Gman Jul 2013 #6

I'd have yo do some searching, but I believe Prosense has that record Dragonfli Jul 2013 #14

Hey now bobduca Jul 2013 #19

Well, there's no easy way to really know Gman Jul 2013 #38

No one beats the link meister. L0oniX Jul 2013 #146

and of so little worth... MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #51

It depends on whether or not you are interested in facts. I read all of it and was shocked at sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #171

Too long to read in entirety... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #2

It's really worth reading. n/t ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #7

My first impression - that the male reporter cut the female spokesperson off before she could karynnj Jul 2013 #62

It's worth it to read the disgraceful equivocations by a govt. spokesperson in their HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #63

i'm still trying to figure out what propagranda she's talking about. allin99 Jul 2013 #81

Her boss, Secretary of State Kerry, is famous (infamous?) for HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #83

Kerry NEVER said that - it was a media smear karynnj Jul 2013 #109

I beg your pardon.My wife and I watched Kerry on TV in Colorado Springs be asked the question HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #112

That is because the news person stated the question as karynnj Jul 2013 #115

The idea is that anything coming out of Snowden's mouth, and out of Russia Catherina Jul 2013 #127

How do you equivocate or anything if you can't get a word in edgewise? karynnj Jul 2013 #110

Here's how: HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #111

I disagree karynnj Jul 2013 #120

to Karyn[formerlyNJ-but now]VT, re: "limits to free speech" and the Fire/crowded theater meme... RememberTheNinth Aug 2013 #181

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #183

Read it whenevr you have timebut don't have any liguids near your keyboard when you do Catherina Jul 2013 #74

I saved it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #78

So true....it's fascinating. KoKo Jul 2013 #97

... questionseverything Jul 2013 #3

This OP is basically a giant copy-paste with some bold font here and there? Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #4

Also, from the transcript these questioners...sound like complete a-holes Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #5

How so? blackspade Jul 2013 #16

Actually at least Matt is doing an awful job if the goal was to get the State Department karynnj Jul 2013 #66

Yes! How DARE they seek answers to legitimate questions! tkmorris Jul 2013 #18

Well, there chance of getting answers would rise if they let her answer karynnj Jul 2013 #70

No, they don't. They are members of the press, and if Snowden doesn't have the right to free JDPriestly Jul 2013 #22

Four words: "Tip of the iceberg" - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #65

Yes. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #142

You mean...for doing their jobs? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #59

No - for not really allowing her to answer the questions karynnj Jul 2013 #72

The fact that I cover pressers regularly nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #76

As I said, I have no problem with the questions karynnj Jul 2013 #84

Mark Twain would most certainly disagree whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #88

NEEDS MORE BLUE LINKS STAT bobduca Jul 2013 #20

All the interruptions make that painful to read bhikkhu Jul 2013 #8

Yeah, the questioning got REALLY stupid railsback Jul 2013 #13

Not stupid at all in my view. I thought it was for once a member of the press asking the right JDPriestly Jul 2013 #25

Wouldn't it then have been better to allow the answers as well? nt karynnj Jul 2013 #87

It's painfully clear she had no answers whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #89

Actually, had he let her answer the questions, that MIGHT be true karynnj Jul 2013 #91

I don't buy it whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #92

I seriously doubt they will fire her karynnj Jul 2013 #107

The answers were not really answers. They were evasive and irrelevant. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #140

The Obama administration doesn't want Snowden to have the right to free speech. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #24

We know they are targeted and that Senators and Congresscritters have been KoKo Jul 2013 #98

+1000 JDPriestly Jul 2013 #139

I couldn't read it either. It was like Chris Matthews asking the questions Whisp Jul 2013 #37

Agreed, questioner has an agenda treestar Jul 2013 #64

Came to the same basic conclusion after reading all that nonsense. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #90

Well, I read the whole thing. noamnety Jul 2013 #9

Definitely! KoKo Jul 2013 #99

Very... Special... idwiyo Jul 2013 #151

Where were these tenacious reporters when Bush** was magellan Jul 2013 #10

Took a long time, but it looks like what Snowden said and revealed woke them up to the simple JDPriestly Jul 2013 #26

I'm a cynic magellan Jul 2013 #29

What *is* with the press? It's embarrassing. (and beyond frustrating). allin99 Jul 2013 #31

We started a World Forum under Media, and we are going to try to catch some foreign views of JDPriestly Jul 2013 #48

Yes. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #50

I have no problem with relentless questioning - but it is important to allow answers to the karynnj Jul 2013 #75

i would have like to hear her been able to answer a couple of those... allin99 Jul 2013 #82

He cut her off because she was avoiding answering his questions by speaking in broad generalities JDPriestly Jul 2013 #141

He started cutting her off with the first question karynnj Jul 2013 #144

There is no honest answer to his questions other than, yes, we are depriving Edward Snowden JDPriestly Jul 2013 #145

I disagree karynnj Jul 2013 #147

They already named a reporter as a co-conspirtor in espionage. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #148

The Rosen story was a while ago and not related karynnj Jul 2013 #149

The USA should really protect whistleblowers. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #150

Yes. Loud and clear too. Catherina Jul 2013 #44

that was bizarre. and what is this talking point supposed to mean.. allin99 Jul 2013 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author magellan Jul 2013 #10

so glad the press isn't accepting the spin at face value nashville_brook Jul 2013 #12

press ? kardonb Jul 2013 #21

You still live in the Cold War Era? KoKo Jul 2013 #100

Thanks for posting blackspade Jul 2013 #15

wow, that reporter is a bulldog! grasswire Jul 2013 #17

Agreed. Matthew Lee, AP n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #54

is he around much? also, when will the u.s. be asked about... allin99 Jul 2013 #56

They covered Morales plane when they came back from the 4th of July long weekend Catherina Jul 2013 #68

but that was earlier before.. allin99 Jul 2013 #80

wow. thanks for posting that. It's also awesome on video... allin99 Jul 2013 #23

Thanks. I had a heck of a time watching your link last night Catherina Jul 2013 #43

Thanks! Some DU'ers might find the interview VIDEO easier than the read KoKo Jul 2013 #101

THAT is how a journalist works. NuclearDem Jul 2013 #27

Will we ever see them again? I almost wonder... allin99 Jul 2013 #30

Ms. Psaki needs to repeat CYA101 and read "Weasal Words and Their Uses" again. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #28

Kicked and Recommended! nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #32

Thank you, because it's unbelievable in any ordinary sense. delrem Jul 2013 #33

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #34

I read it and thanks for posting it. I say screw Kerry and the horse he rode in on. byeya Jul 2013 #35

Nice snark there Fumesucker Jul 2013 #116

Priceless. bemildred Jul 2013 #36

I'm glad you guys thought so too. Catherina Jul 2013 #42

That is the problem with up-is-down propaganda. bemildred Jul 2013 #47

It's totally cringeworthy. You almost want to help them because it's so bad n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #49

Weasel words. 99Forever Jul 2013 #39

Kind of looks like Bush 43 and his handlers deflecting questions warrant46 Jul 2013 #40

It's what they specialize in. 99Forever Jul 2013 #41

The sheep--- being made in an education system near you warrant46 Jul 2013 #114

It takes this full transcript to show IMPRESSIVE this reporter was Tom Rinaldo Jul 2013 #45

That's precisely why I didn't snip it. I tried but it took away the full effect Catherina Jul 2013 #53

My favorite part: ProSense Jul 2013 #46

K&R this is unreal. nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #52

Check out the video, it's in post #43 allin99 Jul 2013 #57

The reactions here are telling nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #58

"Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech. Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #60

How soon we forget. The ironies are endless n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #69

I posted it earlier today Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #85

Your Post at the Link is a MUST SEE..... KoKo Jul 2013 #103

Just went and rec'd Catherina Jul 2013 #130

I'll bet the U.S. Government did threaten Amnesty Intl and HRW with HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #61

The Brits did when echelon was exposed nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #67

It's pretty clear since HRW normally treats the US with deference and kid gloves Catherina Jul 2013 #73

They're not prepared for any of this type of questioning, are they? Stunning. K&R and bookmarked. Jefferson23 Jul 2013 #71

Our governments entire reaction to the Snowden Affair has been embarrassing Catherina Jul 2013 #77

embarrassing but perversely comforting to see the incompetence of the anti-Snowden PR carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #94

+1 n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #129

K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #79

This is DEMOCRACY IN ACTION temmer Jul 2013 #86

Propaganda? That's the WH position? propaganda platform? that's insane xiamiam Jul 2013 #93

+1 KoKo Jul 2013 #105

That is unfathomably disturbing. woo me with science Jul 2013 #95

Does anyone know what she meant by "propoganda", what she was referring to? allin99 Jul 2013 #96

Here is Edward Snowden's statement from Moscow. Eric J in MN Jul 2013 #153

so she was referring to him speaking out against the u.s... allin99 Jul 2013 #154

Yes, usually "propaganda" refers to a government promoting itself. NT Eric J in MN Jul 2013 #155

K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #102

That is a whole lot of dissembling and stonewalling. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #104

Mr. Psaki made some very good points. arely staircase Jul 2013 #106

That was her rational for why he should not have free speech. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #118

May Mr. Snowden get to exercise his 6th Amendment rights very soon. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #119

Yeah I get that you desperately want him punished. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #121

Justice for Snowden! arely staircase Jul 2013 #122

The USA does not have an extradition treaty with Russia. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2013 #123

All that to say that 'we believe in free speech except when we don't'. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #108

that "broadly" cracked me up. allin99 Jul 2013 #161

So the USA is okay with free speech, up until the point you piss them off Rex Jul 2013 #113

OWS is a great example of that. Another favorite are the free speech zones Catherina Jul 2013 #128

Ari Fleischer is turning green with envy n/t Fumesucker Jul 2013 #117

K & R Liberal_Dog Jul 2013 #124

Holy Fuck... Hydra Jul 2013 #125

That's it in a nutshell n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #126

Obama has already said as much with killing Americans Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #132

I totally agree since the Presidental power to assassinate is beyond the law Hydra Jul 2013 #135

Which is why so many of us freaked over Obama's position on this... Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #138

Wow! Excellent reporting, great post, and horrifying content. nt Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #131

Arrogance Savannahmann Jul 2013 #133

Just thinking about your question... Catherina Jul 2013 #134

And the fact that they DON'T know what he has Hydra Jul 2013 #136

I love having you on DU...your posts give me the snooper2 Jul 2013 #157

You need to catch up instead of ROFLing like a blue link wonder Catherina Jul 2013 #163

LOL, right, he was a low level IT twerp who got his hands on some documents snooper2 Jul 2013 #164

Of course you do. n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #165

course I do what? snooper2 Jul 2013 #167

du rec. xchrom Jul 2013 #137

Yikes. n/t DirkGently Jul 2013 #143

k+r ..nt TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #152

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #156

Too cool! I can't believe it's been tweeted 234 times and liked like that on FB. Thank you n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Jul 2013 #159

Cool! Make some more room under the bus lol. I'm glad people are taking this seriously Catherina Jul 2013 #162

And tweeted it too lol Catherina Jul 2013 #160

Good, maybe Greenwald will read this- snooper2 Jul 2013 #168

Whoa. MelungeonWoman Jul 2013 #166

Check out the video... allin99 Jul 2013 #169

Link to VIDEO: http://video.state.gov/en/video/2542356307001 KoKo Jul 2013 #172

agree. allin99 Jul 2013 #173

Short answer is: Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #170

and then it's propaganda that must be silenced. lol allin99 Jul 2013 #175

Propaganda vs. propaganda. Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #176

Keep this kicked. woo me with science Jul 2013 #174

One of the Most Important Posts I've Seen on DU in Years...AP Reporter Strikes Back! KoKo Jul 2013 #177

Thank you Koko! I didn't expect it to make this much of an impression Catherina Jul 2013 #178

Kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #179

kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #180

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