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71. You are right Nadin, any lack of economic or soicial development in

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:58 AM

Jul 2013

post-colonial Latin America can be laid at our doorstep.
I have a brother, who lives in Ecuador and has for the last 17 years. I communicate with him daily and have watched a somewhat conservative character become a firm supporter of progressive and left wing politics. His wife, an Ecuadorian, is much more conservative than he so she is not the influence that sponsored this attitudinal change, it was witnessing the positive changes in his community, under Correa, that changed his mind about how to best solve economic and social problems.
I have also been teaching Latin American history for the last 20 years. It is remarkable what the average US citizen doesn't know about those south of our border.

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So funny...I said that the Cono Sur would pull ambassadors [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 OP

The ones we were claiming to protect... Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #1

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #3

Hope we see an end to the Monroe Doctrine soon. Cleita Jul 2013 #2

Part of the problem is that kids in the Americas nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #4

Not only that, I heard Latin America referred to as the USA's backyard AGAIN today Cleita Jul 2013 #13

The ghost of hurst most be reporting nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #15

Conasur? .... Do you mean Mercosur? struggle4progress Jul 2013 #5

I'm sure you're on the "iggy" list with me... tammywammy Jul 2013 #25

LOL Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #43

could be. *sigh* struggle4progress Jul 2013 #56

"Formation of blocks to indeed isolate the US." aquart Jul 2013 #6

Not a wish, reality intruding nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #7

No it's a horrible tragedy. One done to us by our leaders. Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #8

We have a democracy, but whole areas of this nation run no primaries. aquart Jul 2013 #11

This is true, many incumbents run virtually unopposed by either their own party or the Cleita Jul 2013 #16

No, I was talking about how the American sugar, coffee, rubber, and transportation industries Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #21

+100 Cleita Jul 2013 #55

What ails the US can't be fixed by elections nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #22

"Is it unusual for people with boot marks on their necks to have anger issues?" Aerows Jul 2013 #79

Fun fact: America is not the world Spider Jerusalem Jul 2013 #80

And Latin America is going to align itself with Russia and China. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #9

It was a matter of time nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #10

I think Obama could have locked up LA as allies/partners. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #14

Of course he could have, but that doesn't fit his master's plans at all. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #68

I don't think its a model that can sustain itself. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #69

Maybe you didn't notice the oil contracts Venezuela wrote to send oil to China during BushCo. aquart Jul 2013 #12

A little more fact less information, and character assassination nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #18

No. But state secrecy is common to all nations. aquart Jul 2013 #26

Us pointing out the house is on fire is fanning the flames? Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #30

Wrong analogy. aquart Jul 2013 #85

And your point? So you think our government should trash the Fourth? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #31

And forcing down a head of state's plane will win their hearts and minds? HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #20

Now that was A+ stupid. No quarrel there. aquart Jul 2013 #29

Obama doesn't run any of South or Central America, the problem is he forgot that. Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #27

Of course they'll align with Russia and China. They're farther away. aquart Jul 2013 #17

Well, we can start by not thinking of Latin America as our back yard nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #24

So, it's their private business and we should keep out of it? aquart Jul 2013 #32

Ah yes, neo colonial thought right there nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #33

More than you, I think. aquart Jul 2013 #37

No, you see them as colonies... nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #40

My interest... dtom67 Jul 2013 #46

Actually that's been happening since Nixon. The Soviets started moving in where they Cleita Jul 2013 #19

Earlier, but yes nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #23

Soviet influenced lessened when USSR collapsed. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #28

It's always been about the multinational corporations exploiting So. American countries Cleita Jul 2013 #34

Over? Riiiight. Over. aquart Jul 2013 #36

Start with anything Noam Chomsky has written about South America. Cleita Jul 2013 #38

Nuh nuh. I didn't ask him for proof. aquart Jul 2013 #41

Hope your Spanish is good nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #45

That would be a whole college quarter in Latin American studies you ask me to do in one post. Cleita Jul 2013 #47

The countries signing trade agreements with China.... HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #49

They may have more in common with China than the US. aquart Jul 2013 #52

You might be surprised. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #57

Absolutely. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #59

Growing more than ours. aquart Jul 2013 #60

It could be a non zero sum game nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #61

Good friend of mine married an Argentine woman. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #63

And why s that? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #58

Obama was there when the USSR collapsed? aquart Jul 2013 #35

I'll answer that...yes. Cleita Jul 2013 #39

So you would hand our sovereignty to other countries? aquart Jul 2013 #44

LMAO...read into te TPP, we are. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #48

As a start, we need to start treating them as partners and equals. We need to stop interfering in Cleita Jul 2013 #50

Look at Japan. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #53

Question, How does recognizing their sovereignty surrender ours? Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #65

It was a strawman. HooptieWagon Jul 2013 #67

How does this differ from other countries ceding their sovereignty to the US? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2013 #81

The subtext of the fears is amazing nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #83

What is wrong with the idea of treating other nations iemitsu Jul 2013 #42

I would LOVE to see our minimum wage in Latin America. aquart Jul 2013 #51

You will have to get the American Fruit company out nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #54

You are right Nadin, any lack of economic or soicial development in iemitsu Jul 2013 #71

The lack of knowledge is by design nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #73

Well, yes, it is by design. iemitsu Jul 2013 #84

You've got it all wrong. reusrename Jul 2013 #62

That whole thread is not just funny nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #64

WTF is conasur?... SidDithers Jul 2013 #66

Mercosur reusrename Jul 2013 #70

Southern Cone: bemildred Jul 2013 #82

Not knowing what "conasur" is, I googled it with no success other than a couple of bike man Jul 2013 #72

The treatment of the Bolivian President may be the last straw malaise Jul 2013 #74

My tv broke...so been listening, instead of reading, to BBC nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #75

Americans should watch Canadian news at least once a day malaise Jul 2013 #77

Yup, but Mexico is sharing that border nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #78

Wow. aquart Jul 2013 #86

Given the history of the last 200 years nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #87

Yawn. More predictions by the Windmill Prophet. nt Codeine Jul 2013 #76