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pintobean

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28. As liberals, I think we should support the right

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:40 AM

Jul 2013

to a fair trial and the judicial system. Demanding a certain verdict seems pretty right wing to me. Reasonable doubt is a strong standard that protects the innocent. A not guilty verdict could very well mean that the jury is pretty sure of guilt, but there was reasonable doubt.

Unfortunately, the jury won't be given reasonable doubt if they make the "wrong" decision. They will be called bigots.

I've watched the whole trial on line. That includes a lot of things the jury didn't see. I'll respect whatever verdict is reached.

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The Zimmerman Jury Is Better Able to Judge His Fate Than You [View all] davidpdx Jul 2013 OP

That jury also saw more bullshit lawyer swagger than I did NoOneMan Jul 2013 #1

Humans are flawed by nature davidpdx Jul 2013 #3

K&R, but this won't be popular here pintobean Jul 2013 #2

Yes, you are right davidpdx Jul 2013 #5

I've served on several juries pintobean Jul 2013 #7

Are you willing to share what the charges were and the outcome? davidpdx Jul 2013 #10

That one was a civil case. pintobean Jul 2013 #12

True story: The last time I was called to jury duty it was also a civil suit. 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #30

About 6 years ago pintobean Jul 2013 #33

I agree. When the judge asked me if I could be an unbiased juror I stated ... 11 Bravo Jul 2013 #36

I wonder how the jurors feel about the defense attorneys? avebury Jul 2013 #4

We may never know davidpdx Jul 2013 #8

With the gun enhancement, he'd do some real time behind bars. reusrename Jul 2013 #45

I see davidpdx Jul 2013 #54

True about the OJ jury too, eh? Lex Jul 2013 #6

Certainly it is davidpdx Jul 2013 #9

You read my mind nt NoGOPZone Jul 2013 #11

The OJ jury didn't know that there was blood everywhere. Ito wouldn't allow Luminol. reusrename Jul 2013 #46

Oh bullshit. Zoeisright Jul 2013 #13

It is possible they lied about having preconceived notions or knowledge of the case? davidpdx Jul 2013 #18

Gee, they might have thought you lied. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #34

Zimmerman was armed. Trayvon was not. Hugabear Jul 2013 #14

Are you replying to me or the article? davidpdx Jul 2013 #17

70% of sexual assaults involve an unarmed attacker Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2013 #41

The jury has one more thing SoutherDem Jul 2013 #15

I agree with you on not wanting to be one the jury davidpdx Jul 2013 #16

As liberals, I think we should support the right pintobean Jul 2013 #28

I agree Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #44

This is why I rarely talk about the case. Let the jury decide. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #19

Good point davidpdx Jul 2013 #21

I made the mistake of arguing about it in the beginning. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #22

I like that last line davidpdx Jul 2013 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #20

I hope Zimmerman never walks the streets again. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #24

I think we pretty much have to davidpdx Jul 2013 #25

In some ways they know less than we know YarnAddict Jul 2013 #26

That is true, they have been sequestered davidpdx Jul 2013 #27

And they have no professional expertise... kentuck Jul 2013 #29

We were talking about the media, not law davidpdx Jul 2013 #31

This is truly a case of "NS, S." And guess what? We ALSO KNOW we don't decide Z's fate! How about WinkyDink Jul 2013 #32

What was Bill Maher's closing argument B Calm Jul 2013 #35

I might have to try to find it on Youtube davidpdx Jul 2013 #37

If the pants are full of shit... kentuck Jul 2013 #51

OMG, that was it! Thanks kentuck B Calm Jul 2013 #60

The New National Pastime...Second Guessing The Judicial System... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #38

Just to clarify I didn't write the piece, I am sharing it from a source davidpdx Jul 2013 #39

It's All Good... KharmaTrain Jul 2013 #40

The 2000 SCOTUS thanks you. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #42

So what? Iggo Jul 2013 #43

Ya I agree so what? This is a discussion forum Rex Jul 2013 #47

I didn't write it davidpdx Jul 2013 #55

Yes, very true, David. NaturalHigh Jul 2013 #48

Anyone with half a clue knows how this case should be decided. reusrename Jul 2013 #49

Probably....but there is a truth in this..A man shot and killed an unarmed teenager. Tikki Jul 2013 #50

It would be interesting to hear about that case davidpdx Jul 2013 #58

Actually, I believe he would have been acquitted, but he admitted that if the people at the end of.. Tikki Jul 2013 #59

Not in this case. I've seen the evidence ecstatic Jul 2013 #52

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That's pretty much what I think too bhikkhu Jul 2013 #56

Could you imagine if we went to internet polling for juries? davidpdx Jul 2013 #57