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99th_Monkey

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40. In fairness, Snowden's whistle hadn't been blown yet under Bush

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:34 PM

Jul 2013

Snowden's huge data dump, exposing the omnipresent scope of NSA's
snooping, etc. had not happened.

Now that we are ALL "Terrorist suspects" under 24/7 surveillance -- if you
can fog a mirror you're being subjected to it <-- this kind of changes things.

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WSJ: The NSA's Surveillance Is Unconstitutional [View all] Luminous Animal Jul 2013 OP

funny, I don't remember them offering such an opinion about it in 2006 arely staircase Jul 2013 #1

I recall the exact opposite. The WSJ was one of few media pubs that rallied against this. Melinda Jul 2013 #2

Actually, upon closer look arely staircase Jul 2013 #5

What's your point here? That this cant be true because some lowly columnist wrote it? rhett o rick Jul 2013 #7

Siobhan Gorman is an investigative reporter for WSJ - not a columnist. arely is wrong on this. Melinda Jul 2013 #10

That the WSJ has not, to my knowledge, weighed in on this. arely staircase Jul 2013 #11

In fairness, Snowden's whistle hadn't been blown yet under Bush 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #40

Nonetheless, it was known & revealed that everything was scooped up under the surveillance regimine. Coyotl Jul 2013 #53

So Snowden's data revealed NOTHING? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #60

Is that what you are saying? Coyotl Jul 2013 #65

You said --> "it was known & revealed that everything was scooped up" 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #70

It was reported back in 2006 nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #59

I don't see a link anywhere in your post 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #62

here you go arely staircase Jul 2013 #64

This report says "tens of millions of Americans", not "100%-Saturation" 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #66

Snowden only released evidence of Verizon customers' phone records being collected. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #74

Snowden hasn't released everything he has, don't you know? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #75

I don't know what he HASN'T released arely staircase Jul 2013 #76

There was outrage back in 2006 when it was revealed that the telecoms were spying on sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #88

So now it's hypocritical to change ones mind? How would you expect to correct xtraxritical Jul 2013 #49

Not weighed in on this? The WSJ decides what to publish under its banner. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #51

Newspapers print op/eds that are contrary to their editorial board's position all the time. arely staircase Jul 2013 #61

It is presumed that people intend the natural consequences of their voluntary acts. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #67

The 1st article is clearly marked opinion, but the one I posted is not marked as an opinion... Melinda Jul 2013 #8

It has a byline. It is not the opinion of the WSJ, but rather the author whose name it carries. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #12

Does that make it any less value? If not, what's your point? nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #14

No, and I have answered your question once. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #15

You're wrong about this. Siobhan Gorman is an investigative reporter for the WSJ, period. Melinda Jul 2013 #16

The opinion of the WSJ would be expressed in an editorial by the editorial board and without arely staircase Jul 2013 #17

It's not an editorial - it's a piece by an investigative journalist. Seriously, this is a bit anal. Melinda Jul 2013 #23

Wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #68

*squawk* frylock Jul 2013 #34

I have no idea what you are trying to say. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #35

not in the least bit surprising frylock Jul 2013 #37

lol nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #39

2006 Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #80

I guess the financial sector realized they're being spied on, too. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #3

+1 leftstreet Jul 2013 #20

And they have a hell of a lot more to hide than we do. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #21

Glenn Greenwald Q&A with Falguni Sheth Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #4

So is the state denying women basic reproductive healthcare Triana Jul 2013 #6

Are your referring to abortion? cali Jul 2013 #24

Not enough. Triana Jul 2013 #72

Like how Murdoch, et al, have Lefties jumping through hoops railsback Jul 2013 #9

Not really... make 3 hard right turns and suddenly you're left. Melinda Jul 2013 #18

The Right doesn't think in long terms railsback Jul 2013 #26

Do you agree with Cheney on Snowden? And disagree with Gore? think Jul 2013 #28

The end game of the Right is to win seats railsback Jul 2013 #29

The Economist: Secret Government: America Against Democracy Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #13

The Economist sounds very surprised to learn about a secret court JoePhilly Jul 2013 #19

What other 'side' would a judge want to hear from when granting a search warrant? randome Jul 2013 #25

Same with grand jury indictments Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #82

all sorts of innacuaracies in this article arely staircase Jul 2013 #42

Cool, ProSense Jul 2013 #22

+1. That, I believe, is the point of the article. Bonhomme Richard Jul 2013 #27

Advocating repeal of Obamacare and Dodd Frank ProSense Jul 2013 #46

When did the WSJ supplant the Judiciary Branch of our Constitution? treestar Jul 2013 #30

When did the WSJ abdicate its right to freedom of speech & press? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #73

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #31

No body listens to WSJ <-- Leftist Propaganda rag 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #32

K&R quinnox Jul 2013 #33

+100 nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #48

Good afternon, Luminous Animal. ocpagu Jul 2013 #36

Thanks for the opinion Murdoch. SoapBox Jul 2013 #38

where were you? frylock Jul 2013 #54

The Economist and the WSJ? Rec'd n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #41

The WSJ and the Economist are fearful the NSA spying is uncovering money laundering and byeya Jul 2013 #43

Is it just me, or is the WSJ just another gop propaganda rag? Hulk Jul 2013 #44

editorial side of WSJ much more biased than the news coverage carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #58

Eyewash, Sir, For Their Fear And Hate Of Financial Regulation The Magistrate Jul 2013 #45

I don't see how a massive database of personal info is marions ghost Jul 2013 #81

Not that I'm not all for as much exposure as possible no matter what forestpath Jul 2013 #47

This is the WSJ whining about financial reform ThoughtCriminal Jul 2013 #50

Agreed! nt wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #52

Very interesting Jack Rabbit Jul 2013 #55

K&R woo me with science Jul 2013 #56

LOL!!!! Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #57

No kidding. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #63

Um, I think you missed the payload of the piece. gulliver Jul 2013 #69

K&R Yep, this is a nothingburger story, alright. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #71

again--I always say "wait 'til '17" MisterP Jul 2013 #78

Don't you have a less right-wing source? Doctor_J Jul 2013 #77

This one doesn't seem like a far right raving marions ghost Jul 2013 #79

everything from wsj is hyper-partisan repuke propaganda Doctor_J Jul 2013 #84

Sure I know that, but IMO we need to understand how they think on this marions ghost Jul 2013 #85

A libertarian attacks the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau! struggle4progress Jul 2013 #83

Consumer financial protection marions ghost Jul 2013 #86

Here's the law establishing it: it looks like a standard regulatory agency to me struggle4progress Jul 2013 #87

Of course the WSJ would never have said this while Dummya Bush was a presidentin'. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #89