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ProSense

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20. Sure

Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:48 PM

Jul 2013

"The government and the nation are not the same thing."

...in the context of his statement, keep telling yourself that.

"If that is indeed what's happening, as appears to be the case, then who *wouldn't* be for 'harming the government'? It's like reporting a bully. You can root for the bully if you like, I suppose, and insist he has a right to stomp on the other kids, but I doubt many will agree with you."

Well, feel free to root for the egotistical, grandstanding, unable to shit or get off the pot wannabe blackmailer.

Greenwald sounds like a delusional twit with these statements.

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Snowden documents could be 'worst nightmare' for U.S.: journalist [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

so now he's blackmailing? warrior1 Jul 2013 #1

Release Snowden, or we'll let the country have it! ProSense Jul 2013 #3

The government and the nation are not the same thing. Marr Jul 2013 #14

Sure ProSense Jul 2013 #20

Ok then, I'll root for the twit and you root for the bully. /nt Marr Jul 2013 #25

^5 n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #36

Well, at least you agree he's a "twit" ProSense Jul 2013 #39

You're missing the point here. If Snowden hasn't released everything, then he's not a twit. leveymg Jul 2013 #53

No, that's not the point, ProSense Jul 2013 #60

It's not a threat by Greenwald - he's saying there's a deadman trigger on those files leveymg Jul 2013 #66

Oh please, ProSense Jul 2013 #67

No, I believe him. Here's why: leveymg Jul 2013 #70

So ProSense Jul 2013 #77

I don't think Greenwald is saying that he would release it. There are probably several leveymg Jul 2013 #83

Greenwald ProSense Jul 2013 #85

What case? Snowden's not going to be prosecuted. That's a fantasy. leveymg Jul 2013 #89

OK ProSense Jul 2013 #92

Not sure whats so delusional about his statement Bradical79 Jul 2013 #99

Only Twits are "Cheerleading Trampling of Constitutional Rights" FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #103

You may not ProSense Jul 2013 #104

Its still killing the messenger - which is really dumb FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #106

No, it isn't. It's criticizing him for his idiotic comments. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #107

They love the bully, it's what they are themselves. Look how they will go out of their way... allin99 Jul 2013 #52

Yep-- there have been countless threads about Snowden that are Marr Jul 2013 #54

Yeah, ProSense Jul 2013 #64

I disagree - the pro-Patriot Act FISA posters are laying out the thinking of the party DC apparachik leveymg Jul 2013 #68

Agree with all that you said. but it's the extent of the posts that are meant to ... allin99 Jul 2013 #73

I agree that's what they're trying to do, but it's backfired, badly. It just keeps the story leveymg Jul 2013 #87

gotcha, thanks... allin99 Jul 2013 #93

Except if you read the transcript which is in another thread Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #94

Do you mean: ProSense Jul 2013 #97

i refuse to follow your links Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #98

Third-party blackmail. randome Jul 2013 #5

Likely, the PR event didn't go over well. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #9

yep, patriot that he is arely staircase Jul 2013 #16

One thing Greenwald's writings has shown me is it is very close to rags magazine articles, if I was Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #2

What a grandstanding ass he is. hardcover Jul 2013 #4

Saw the link elsewhere, clicked to see who the "journalist" was. Oh. n/t UTUSN Jul 2013 #6

Greenwald is a tool. MineralMan Jul 2013 #7

Rand Paul MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #12

He could be it, or his proud papa, Ron. MineralMan Jul 2013 #13

Matt Taibbi has exposed far more important information Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #21

Taibbi is not a libertarian. Greenwald is. MineralMan Jul 2013 #24

Which village? The Village? Is it Number 2, again? Which Number 2? Who is No 1? leveymg Jul 2013 #56

It's always some village or another. MineralMan Jul 2013 #63

What were you saying about Greenwald at Free Republic when he was ragging on Dubya? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #95

Nothing. MineralMan Jul 2013 #111

How do people not see this guy as a traitor loyalsister Jul 2013 #8

Been asking that question all along. liberal N proud Jul 2013 #10

That's even worse than defending these programs. Marr Jul 2013 #17

No - I am saying that running around the world telling everyone is the crime. liberal N proud Jul 2013 #32

I don't support the government of my country when it tramples on civil rights, no. Marr Jul 2013 #48

I guess you could leave and join Snowden liberal N proud Jul 2013 #49

Wow-- 'love it or leave it'. Marr Jul 2013 #51

You also have made it quite clear that you no longer vote for Democrats. Just to be clear. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #84

You lie very easily. Marr Jul 2013 #90

Snowden is no traitor Amaya Jul 2013 #76

Snowden is a hack and a leaker who's cozied up to China and Russia. Cha Jul 2013 #109

It is possible that both are wrong! liberal N proud Jul 2013 #112

I agree loyalsister Jul 2013 #100

Some see this differently: the people who allowed the NSA to spy on ALL of us are the traitors. leveymg Jul 2013 #61

Shut your mouth, Glenn. We're tired of your threats. Dump all the data, or don't. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #11

Greenwald runs to Brazil to avoid taxes. Teams up with traitor to destroy the US DevonRex Jul 2013 #15

+1 flamingdem Jul 2013 #22

+2 n/t Blackford Jul 2013 #57

+1000 CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #119

It's always the US that these "journalists" are trying to destroy. JaneyVee Jul 2013 #18

Greenwald is an idiot. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #19

+!! in a nutshell yes flamingdem Jul 2013 #23

Snowden Suxx!!! nm MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #26

What a childish response. In your attempt to belittle us, you've belittled yourself. nt DevonRex Jul 2013 #29

Oh, that's rich. nt woo me with science Jul 2013 #35

He's Enjoying This Far Too Much otohara Jul 2013 #27

This has to be the explanation flamingdem Jul 2013 #31

if the US government has nothing to hide it has nothing to fear temmer Jul 2013 #28

Are you really that naive? The US has a network of agents just like Valerie Plame, pnwmom Jul 2013 #33

Greenwald really blanked the pooch today with those comments flamingdem Jul 2013 #37

Are you really that naive? woo me with science Jul 2013 #38

It's Snowden himself who has taken the focus off internal US surveillance, pnwmom Jul 2013 #40

No he hasn't. nt woo me with science Jul 2013 #46

Not only that, but he's made a nuisance of himself in the process. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #115

Actually, the US Govt has assemble surveillance that is SIMILAR to most of the globe. KittyWampus Jul 2013 #86

speaking of Valerie Plame - she and her husband recently wrote on OP-ED on this whole issue Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #41

Yes, and they wrote that the day before Snowden came forth with his threats pnwmom Jul 2013 #42

Written before Greenwald's threats to expose US agents worldwide flamingdem Jul 2013 #43

and they still believe that the Surveillance state is out of control are they still glad that Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #44

Excellent article. Thank you. We are hearing more and more voices woo me with science Jul 2013 #50

How do you know agents are affected? temmer Jul 2013 #45

Exposing the agents is certainly not the worst nightmare temmer Jul 2013 #47

The next NSA document to release. randome Jul 2013 #55

right marions ghost Jul 2013 #58

imo blue cat Jul 2013 #30

Of course you do. woo me with science Jul 2013 #34

He's right. Having the people find out what it's government does is a nightmare... Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #59

This is their big fear marions ghost Jul 2013 #62

As I was saying in another thread: two words... check and mate. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #65

Snowden is in the hands of the Russians. ProSense Jul 2013 #69

Russians: so what... Good idea: yes... Greenwald is absolutely right. nt Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #72

LOL! ProSense Jul 2013 #74

Right about what? The US should hope that nothing happens to Snowden. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #79

Again, ProSense Jul 2013 #80

I think they both know what they're doing, and the US and Russians get it too. nt Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #82

I'd say he made Snowden a bit nervous flamingdem Jul 2013 #75

You do realize that the Revolution was an illegal act? At least I hope you do. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #81

If Paul Revere heard this by Greenwald he'd say "The Idiots are coming, the Idiots are coming" flamingdem Jul 2013 #91

I think he'd paraphrase FDR, "the Tories hatred is a thing to welcome". nt Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #96

Would That Occur The USA Cheerleaders Might Have To Eat Serious Crow - It Would Be A Humbling Experience cantbeserious Jul 2013 #102

I like your bully and nasty bits analogy - it's also a case of... polichick Jul 2013 #88

Obama's Transparency Has Whithered In The Wind cantbeserious Jul 2013 #105

Um, Glenn ... I'm really not sure what you're doing qualifies as public interest journalism struggle4progress Jul 2013 #71

+1000. That's why i dislike him so much. It's such a shame... allin99 Jul 2013 #78

But would it be a nightmare for the people of the US? David__77 Jul 2013 #101

Snowden loves bunnies. n/t L0oniX Jul 2013 #108

I think Glenn Greenwald should tell himself to be Cha Jul 2013 #110

Why do you feel the need to deceive? Bonobo Jul 2013 #113

Wait, ProSense Jul 2013 #117

R Bonobo Jul 2013 #118

I don't think Greenwald is even a US citizen anymore. Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #114

So if a nation or person wanted to cause harm to the US...... Red Mountain Jul 2013 #116